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Renewal of PR

Postby trishawn quiel » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 10:37 pm

hi i am a filipina married to a singaporian citizen who is working as an engr and he is a chinese i am already a PR and i need to renew it soon

the problem is we are already separated few months after we got married and got my PR i had been always traumatize by her x wife that i decided to just leave as she told she will surely kill me now she is already in canada but i still didnt go back to my husband as i was very afraid something might happen to me.

I stayed here in philippines for almost 4 years now and i need to renew my PR this year.


We are not yet divorced and also i didnt ask for any maintenance as a wife and didnt go back to SG to prove my self that i am not after on anything on him even though i am a single mom from my previous relationship when we are not yet married.


But now things are getting very hard for me as my daughter is already growing up and i am thinking that it is still better for me to go back singapore and try to renew my PR


would there be a chance that it will be granted via online? i have all the documents needed to prove..


thank you and pls pls pls im begging for advices and help

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Postby zzm9980 » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:14 pm

You've been out of the country. PR stands for permanent resident but you're not actually a resident.

Don't bother trying.

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Postby taxico » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:24 pm

i didn't totally understand your "her ex-wife... surely kill me now already in canada..." bit.

but i understand you married a local, left soon after getting your PR over fears for your personal safety... (??? in singapore?) for 4 years, even.

now you want to renew your SPR and come back to singapore because things are getting rough back home...?

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what do your documents prove? (besides that you're still married to a singaporean)

and why aren't you already back in singapore and in a secure job? are you coming back to start a new life in singapore or to a divorce?

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Postby trishawn quiel » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:25 am

when we got married her xwife and me lives in the same house.and everyday they fight and her wife wanted to kill me.

thats why he decided for me to go back here in philippines until such time that i decided not to go back to him already for i was really traumatize for what happened. I have a daughter that needs me incase something might happen to me then no one will take care of her thats why i decided to save my life.

now that the x wife is already away i want to try to go back to Singapore and work.


I still have our original marriage cert and my REP and blue IC. Also renew my passport.

It is stated there that i must bring this documents but i am afraid that they might not renew my REP?

What should i do?

Pls help me

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Postby trishawn quiel » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:29 am

i want to go back to Singapore and work.

about the divorce ill wait for him to do it.

because here in philippines we dont have divorce as i am a filipina i am still under philippine law and i cant file a divorce ;'(

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Postby x9200 » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:54 am

trishawn quiel wrote:hi i am a filipina married to a singaporian citizen who is working as an engr and he is a chinese i am already a PR and i need to renew it soon

the problem is we are already separated few months after we got married and got my PR i had been always traumatize by her x wife that i decided to just leave as she told she will surely kill me now she is already in canada but i still didnt go back to my husband as i was very afraid something might happen to me.

I stayed here in philippines for almost 4 years now and i need to renew my PR this year.


We are not yet divorced and also i didnt ask for any maintenance as a wife and didnt go back to SG to prove my self that i am not after on anything on him even though i am a single mom from my previous relationship when we are not yet married.


But now things are getting very hard for me as my daughter is already growing up and i am thinking that it is still better for me to go back singapore and try to renew my PR


would there be a chance that it will be granted via online? i have all the documents needed to prove..


thank you and pls pls pls im begging for advices and help


Your story is extremely chaotic and I am sure I am not the only one confused.
If I got it correctly you are not formally separated and you also have not mentioned the reason for the divorce. I also don't get the problems with the ex-wife. If you, including your husband were willing to solve it it would be solved without the necessity of you leaving the country so something does not really add up here.
Anyway, if you are really desperate in retaining the PR status come back to Singapore and find a job. If your REP is not renewed your PR is still valid as long as you don't leave the country. After a few years when you paid local taxes by yourself and get some CPF contribution reapply for REP. I don't think your chances are particularly high but this is probably your only hope. Second to this, get a divorce lawyer.

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Postby trishawn quiel » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:04 am

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Postby trishawn quiel » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:05 am

I am not willing to settle things with him already, as he also had been hurting me physically,

when i left i also didnt ask for anything and he didnt support me in any way..

I cant file divorce as philippine law only have annulment and bcoz i am married in singapore he will only be the one that can apply divorce.

for now i dont have any communications to him already for about 3 years.

Thank you so much for the advice at least now im begining to understand.

is there no chance that i can renew my REP? as i worry for my daughter coz no one will take care of her ;'(

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Postby x9200 » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:32 am

trishawn quiel wrote:I am not willing to settle things with him already, as he also had been hurting me physically,

when i left i also didnt ask for anything and he didnt support me in any way..

I cant file divorce as philippine law only have annulment and bcoz i am married in singapore he will only be the one that can apply divorce.

for now i dont have any communications to him already for about 3 years.

Thank you so much for the advice at least now im begining to understand.

is there no chance that i can renew my REP? as i worry for my daughter coz no one will take care of her ;'(


I think your chances of renewing REP are currently rather low.
Now you also confirmed what I suspected - get the lawyer in Singapore. Have any reports been filed to the police for his physical abuse?

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Postby trishawn quiel » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 2:58 pm

I dont have any report of his physical abuse.. But neighbor can be my witness on how he abuse me physically ;"(

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Postby taxico » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:13 pm

trishawn quiel wrote:...I cant file divorce as philippine law only have annulment and bcoz i am married in singapore he will only be the one that can apply divorce...


i understand the catholic/annulment bit, but why does a singapore marriage have anything to do with PH laws?

you got married here so surely you can file for separation/divorce in singapore. and your way forward (to end your marriage) involves a divorce lawyer - you should consult one as x9 has recommended.

preferably a singapore lawyer.

you can't have everything your way - if you want to be with your daughter then don't come to singapore. if you want to work in singapore, then you'd need to figure out how to get your daughter to singapore too or make some arrangement that works (fly home once every few months or something).

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Postby trishawn quiel » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 7:30 pm

It is because our law here in philippines dont have divorce only 2 country in this world dont have divorce law we only have annulment so then if we are married oveaseas like singapore only the husband can apply for divorce because i am still a filipina. It was explained to me by a philippines lawyer

I am very gratefull for your reply. Actually i am planing what u had advice that i work there and return after a few months to see my daughter. That is why my fingers are crossed hoping that i can renew my REP.


I am very thankful for ur reply. I hope we can be friends i appreciate your advice so much.

May Lord God bless u more

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Postby trishawn quiel » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 9:01 pm

even if Singapore ICA dont know that we are already seperated but not formally my chances are still low?

even if i renew it online do i still need to tell them about my situation?

or lets say in Singapore overseas mission here in philippines as i am not in Singapore. If they dont ask do i still have to tell them that we are not legally and formally separated?


Will it still be low chance to get and renew my REP?

pls pls pls...


i need help about this..

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:30 pm

Your departure would have been recorded unless you snuck out without going through immigration. You will not have a re-entry noted until you come back. Additionally, if you have renewed your passport your NRIC (Blue) information will not agree so you will be stopped and questioned. At that point, the jigs up. They will know how long your have been gone and a REP renewal will be out of the question. It's hard to put it that way, but there is no way to sugar coat it.

Unless immigration is sleeping......

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Postby FaeLLe » Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:13 pm

x9200 wrote:Anyway, if you are really desperate in retaining the PR status come back to Singapore and find a job. If your REP is not renewed your PR is still valid as long as you don't leave the country. After a few years when you paid local taxes by yourself and get some CPF contribution reapply for REP. I don't think your chances are particularly high but this is probably your only hope. Second to this, get a divorce lawyer.


If you really want to get back into Singapore follow the advice above from x9200.

Get back into Singapore before your REP expires.
You will be stopped by ICA because your REP is in old passport.

Show your old passport to ICA and tell them you are back in Singapore to meet your husband and will transfer REP to new passport.

Good luck but your story does not add up.
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If you wanted to get divorced, you will surely not get possession of your daughter without the financial means to support her.

In case you are trying to do something hanky panky stay back in Philippines, it is not worth it struggling in Singapore unless you really think you can support yourself and can stay with your husband..... friends and relatives will kick you out one day, it is just a matter of time before you become a burden to them (no matter how close).


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