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Planning to come Singapore. Need advice in job hunting

Postby imranyousaf » Tue, 29 Jan 2013 7:15 pm

Hi there . i am new to to this this group. I am well educated having 3 years of experience in Fund Management , total of 6 years of work experience. Want to come to Singapore . what are the chances to get a job on visit visa ,since i have visa . need advice and support in this regard , Thanks

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Postby JR8 » Tue, 29 Jan 2013 8:54 pm

Hi Imran, welcome to the forum!

My understanding of the Singaporean employment-visa law (for employment in 'the professions') is that you need to make a persuasive case that you have education/knowledge/experience that is not readily available from a local Singaporean. The rationale for this is that the authorities don't want a foreigner putting a local out of a job that he capable of doing.

So your focus is on what those qualities are: What is it that really 'puts the sizzle in your sausage' (as they say)? Any future employer will have to make this case with MoM when applying for your your employment pass.

Considering this will bring some focus. The other advantage of that is that it will guide you in how to tailer your resume/CV. It will also help to suggest a list of employers to approach.

You could also consider using an international employment agent or a head-hunter, either or both of whom have a local presence. They would know how to pitch your skills and who to.

I'd open up your initial approaches first, get an invite or two for an interview, and then visit Singapore and look to close the deal.

Good luck to you!


p.s. Another good way is to be working for an international financial bank/broker etc., and get them to give you an internal transfer to SG. There are large advantages in this over a personal job-search. But if that is not an option I'd start with tracking down a couple of good agents/HH's.

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Postby imranyousaf » Wed, 30 Jan 2013 5:23 pm

Thank you very much JR8 for your reply, inded you have mentioned the correct scenario. I am gonna look out for some International Agents, if you can refer any, it would be great.

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Postby alittlerisky » Wed, 30 Jan 2013 6:16 pm

I was recruited from Belgium, started here a few weeks ago, but my recruiter is a pretty specialist consultancy.

However, I went to see a potential place to live, and it turns out my future housemate is a recruitment consultant, who in turn put me in touch with another recruitment consultant to if I know of anybody loo0king for work, or any open positions at the bank I'm in. Anyway this is email address, you can contact him and have a chat, you never know...

JDopson@candlerecruit.com.sg

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Postby alittlerisky » Wed, 30 Jan 2013 6:18 pm

alittlerisky wrote:I was recruited from Belgium, started here a few weeks ago, but my recruiter is a pretty specialist consultancy.

SNIP!

JDopson@candlerecruit.com.sg

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Oh. The advantage of going with an agency/recruitment consuyltant is they organise all the visa/work permit etc. All I had to do was go the Ministry of Manpower and pick up my "EP" (employment pass).
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Postby JR8 » Wed, 30 Jan 2013 7:28 pm

imranyousaf wrote:Thank you very much JR8 for your reply, inded you have mentioned the correct scenario. I am gonna look out for some International Agents, if you can refer any, it would be great.


I'd love to help, but I haven't been in the industry for over 10 years now and frankly the only one who's name I can recall is Michael Page Ltd.

I you post a link to employment agents on the Singapore Yellow Pages site, then I'll tell you if any other names stand-out as ones I used.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 30 Jan 2013 8:56 pm

alittlerisky wrote:
alittlerisky wrote:I was recruited from Belgium, started here a few weeks ago, but my recruiter is a pretty specialist consultancy.

SNIP!

JDopson@candlerecruit.com.sg

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Oh. The advantage of going with an agency/recruitment consuyltant is they organise all the visa/work permit etc. All I had to do was go the Ministry of Manpower and pick up my "EP" (employment pass).


Only if the bank has hired you as as consultant working for the agency. Otherwise, your HR department at the bank filed everything and your agency didn't really do squat except forward your CV to them and set up the interview appointment. Oh, and collect their fees from the employer.

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Postby anne1x » Wed, 13 Feb 2013 7:01 pm

I'm new in this forum too, and I am going to Singapore on the first week of April to look for a job.

I must say that is a pretty helpful information @jr8. I'm actually weighing options on whether its better to directly apply to companies or go to agencies.

From most of what I read, my decision is now more inclined towards choosing the latter because its safer. I also heard that agencies in Singapore do not collect fees from future employees. I'm just wondering if what will be the cons of applying through an agency?

Thanks in advance :)
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:22 pm

A word from a former Headhunter here. To Agencies here, in general, you are a piece of fruit. e.g., perishable goods. If they have a current client JD that fits your description then your CV will be forwarded to the client with a fist full of other CVs (they mostly use the shotgun approach) and hopefully they will get a Interview or two out of it. Otherwise, your CV is pumped into their database and probably purged in 6 month if not earlier as the shelf life for fresh fruit is only about 3 months if they are lucky.

As the job seeker pays nothing other than a token admin fee (if any) and the recruitment fees are paid by the Clients, It doesn't make sense to spend time on "marketing" a CV unless the applicant is really bringing something to the table. e.g, a niche market or extremely high level. But again, they won't spend too much time on marketing if they don't know if there is a possibility of a placement. It's dog eat dog in the industry here. So much so, there there are little in the way of ethics or professionalism. One of the reasons I got out of recruiting for Singapore agencies or companies (neither worth the time of day from a HR perspective).

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your recommendation

Postby imranyousaf » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 3:51 pm

dear "alittlerisky",

as per your suggestion , i sent my cv to
JDopson@candlerecruit.com.sg , but no reply from their side till now. Can you help in this regard ??
thanxs





alittlerisky wrote:I was recruited from Belgium, started here a few weeks ago, but my recruiter is a pretty specialist consultancy.

However, I went to see a potential place to live, and it turns out my future housemate is a recruitment consultant, who in turn put me in touch with another recruitment consultant to if I know of anybody loo0king for work, or any open positions at the bank I'm in. Anyway this is email address, you can contact him and have a chat, you never know...

JDopson@candlerecruit.com.sg

Cheers

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Re: your recommendation

Postby alittlerisky » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 4:02 pm

imranyousaf wrote:dear "alittlerisky",

as per your suggestion , i sent my cv to
JDopson@candlerecruit.com.sg , but no reply from their side till now. Can you help in this regard ??
thanxs


Well, I don't have his number any more. But just try going to candlerecruits website and contact through their?

or else do this: google "Funad management jobs in Singapore", in like 30 seconds I found:

http://jobs.efinancialcareers.sg/Asset_ ... gapore.htm

http://sg.jobsdb.com/sg/job-list/bankin ... 6wodBT8Aew

http://job-search.jobstreet.com.sg/sing ... ment-jobs/

etc etc etc

You should find it no too problematic to find a suitable job, it more a question of the bureaucracy...
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Postby JR8 » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 6:43 pm

[Just wondering]

You give the impression of never having spoken to the job-search-agent/head-hunter. And yet you're expecting them to find you a job.

Confusing.

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Postby alittlerisky » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 9:04 pm

JR8 wrote:[Just wondering]

You give the impression of never having spoken to the job-search-agent/head-hunter. And yet you're expecting them to find you a job.

Confusing.

?


Nail, meet hammer.

Contact agents, recruiters, (Michael Page, Huxley, Robert Half, specialist Fund Management recruitment consultants). Consultancy firms, Excelian, Accenture, KPMG (although I think they're called Bearing Point now... the consultancy branch at least) , TeamTrade, FinMechanics

These are all agents/consultancies I have worked with in the past, even if it didn't end up in a job. But they know me. They are mostly banking, but it can't be that hard to type "JAVA J2EE jobs Singapore" into Google or "JAVA J2EE consultancy jobs Singapore"

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