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Post by offshoreoildude » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 1:57 pm

lalaland2013 wrote:In Singapore, landlords and citizens will always have the upper hand. Singapore law is pro-landlord and if your landlord is a Singaporean, then you, the foreigner, will lose big time in any Singaporean court of law. My best advice is to cut the losses and move out. Yes, most Singaporean landlords are extremely greedy compared to the states, but Singapore is a greedy society in general.

When you go to court, the judge will ask what passes have you held in the past. If you are holding anything other than a pink NRIC, then the judgment will be much less likely to be in your favor.

It is unfair, but that's how corrupted Singapore is.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 2:27 pm

IF he doesn't, he better edit his post before the powers that be see his post and get a court order to check our ISP's logs to find out who it is, as it is besmirching the judiciary here and they don't think too highly of that. In fact, they love making examples of idiots who do.......
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Post by JR8 » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 4:35 pm

lalaland2013 wrote:
[blah blah blah]

When you go to court, the judge will ask what passes have you held in the past. If you are holding anything other than a pink NRIC, then the judgment will be much less likely to be in your favor.

It is unfair, but that's how corrupted Singapore is.
Sorry, but this is just bollocks.

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Post by lalaland2013 » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 6:21 pm

JR8 wrote:
lalaland2013 wrote:
[blah blah blah]

When you go to court, the judge will ask what passes have you held in the past. If you are holding anything other than a pink NRIC, then the judgment will be much less likely to be in your favor.

It is unfair, but that's how corrupted Singapore is.
Sorry, but this is just bollocks.
Didn't you know Singapore law is in favor of Landlords? That's why so many greedy landlords get away with deposits and stuff like that.

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Post by JR8 » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 6:28 pm

lalaland2013 wrote: Didn't you know Singapore law is in favor of Landlords? That's why so many greedy landlords get away with deposits and stuff like that.
So you're suggesting the Singapore judiciary are biased?

Good luck with that line.


p.s. IMHO some landlords anywhere, get away with fleecing tenants, when the latter are too stupid or ignorant or lazy to defend themselves. Blur lambs to the slaughter, have it coming.

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Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 6:51 pm

lalaland2013 wrote: Didn't you know Singapore law is in favor of Landlords? That's why so many greedy landlords get away with deposits and stuff like that.
There is a distinct lack of laws establishing any rights for tenants. But nothing that's really 'pro landlord'. It all comes down to the tenancy agreement you sign. (As opposed to most of the west, where laws establish basic rights that make it hard for a tenant to shoot himself in the foot)

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Post by offshoreoildude » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 7:34 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
lalaland2013 wrote: Didn't you know Singapore law is in favor of Landlords? That's why so many greedy landlords get away with deposits and stuff like that.
There is a distinct lack of laws establishing any rights for tenants. But nothing that's really 'pro landlord'. It all comes down to the tenancy agreement you sign. (As opposed to most of the west, where laws establish basic rights that make it hard for a tenant to shoot himself in the foot)
+1 - sounds like you've read the West Aust Tenancy Act (or similar).

+2 - contractual law is the basis of renting in Singapore - not a tenancy act or similar. There are some overarching URA regs that need to be abided by (i.e . no short term rentals, no apartments being turned into Hotels etc).
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Post by offshoreoildude » Thu, 04 Apr 2013 7:42 pm

lalaland2013 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
lalaland2013 wrote:
[blah blah blah]

When you go to court, the judge will ask what passes have you held in the past. If you are holding anything other than a pink NRIC, then the judgment will be much less likely to be in your favor.

It is unfair, but that's how corrupted Singapore is.
Sorry, but this is just bollocks.
Didn't you know Singapore law is in favor of Landlords? That's why so many greedy landlords get away with deposits and stuff like that.
Just as many stupid ignorant malicious tenants around as Greedy LL IME.
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Post by JR8 » Fri, 05 Apr 2013 4:01 am

And yet the horror stories are always from tenants...

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Post by offshoreoildude » Fri, 05 Apr 2013 5:56 am

JR8 wrote:And yet the horror stories are always from tenants...
I've been a LL in Singapore....
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Post by JR8 » Fri, 05 Apr 2013 6:10 am

And I,ve been a landlord in London for maybe 80/let years now. Yes I feel like I,ve seen it all.

There is plenty to defend the tenant. l&t 85/87/93, and so on. There is no statute that sets out to protect the landlord ... That I,m aware of.

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Post by x9200 » Fri, 05 Apr 2013 7:02 am

lalaland2013 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
lalaland2013 wrote:
[blah blah blah]

When you go to court, the judge will ask what passes have you held in the past. If you are holding anything other than a pink NRIC, then the judgment will be much less likely to be in your favor.

It is unfair, but that's how corrupted Singapore is.
Sorry, but this is just bollocks.
Didn't you know Singapore law is in favor of Landlords? That's why so many greedy landlords get away with deposits and stuff like that.
This is mostly because of the ignorance of the tenants and their disbelief they can sue the LLs and win without any major sweat.
Opinions like yours contribute to the problem although I don't recall this level of BS was presented here before.
Enough to read through this small No of cases reported in this forum to see that the majority was won by the tenants having fully or partly ruling in their favor. Mind, that typically the negative cases are reported.

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Post by bossy_uss » Sat, 13 Apr 2013 1:35 pm

JR8 wrote:And I,ve been a landlord in London for maybe 80/let years now. Yes I feel like I,ve seen it all.

There is plenty to defend the tenant. l&t 85/87/93, and so on. There is no statute that sets out to protect the landlord ... That I,m aware of.
That's in the UK, Singapore has no law that protects the tenants. Plus Singapore law is pro-landlord.

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Post by JR8 » Sat, 13 Apr 2013 8:51 pm

bossy_uss wrote:
JR8 wrote:And I,ve been a landlord in London for maybe 80/let years now. Yes I feel like I,ve seen it all.

There is plenty to defend the tenant. l&t 85/87/93, and so on. There is no statute that sets out to protect the landlord ... That I,m aware of.
That's in the UK, Singapore has no law that protects the tenants. Plus Singapore law is pro-landlord.
I have rebutted this in the other topic in which today you suggested the same.

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