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Postby vink2 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 8:21 am

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Rubbish. This is like Barrossa's wet dream.

Europe is like a pretentious old communist tosser. The self-anointed rulers sit in their palaces and ordain that no one must work for more than 40 hours a week. 'So that there will be work for everyone, not only the motivated few'.

Their fatal error - but what do they care, they are rewarded for posturing, rather than results - is to presume the pie is of a fixed size. Of course the pie is of a dynamic size, and people being people, some will want 'their bite' for nil return.

Why do you think the first thing Europeans with any gumption do, is leave it.

p.s. Your mindset is rather 'Uzindiastan', with rose-tinted spectacles on.


Very funny, thanks. Which European countries have you visited so far?
40 hours is commons sense, anyway. Unless you want to retire early.

To add to your negligence, you probably need to know that Europe is the set of separate countries, not states. With local law system and ability to exist any union at any time. EU is subset of this set. Eurozone also subset backed by the strong economies - that means that in the worst scenario the Euro currency will decease and they will back to local currencies.
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Postby vink2 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 8:25 am

Brah wrote:I wonder if this is still the case to the former degree in Europe. I hope so. And I agree, everywhere else should follow suit, though it won't.


Dude, where would you be without Europe? Companies align their behavior with the law. Also it is unusual for Europe to fire in 1 hr., but to prevent this, additional law exist. And why did you mention Japan I have no idea.
And what do you know about Europe? I'm quite sure nothing. Probably you visited some popular tourist destinations like UK, France.

Have you ever been in Poland, for example? It is new European powerhouse.
And check how it looks like on a street view. You may be disappointed with your judgments.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:17 am

Vink2....

Considering JR8 is living in Germany at the moment, I'd say you have a massive case of......

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Or if you had done your homework here before spouting off and you still wrote that, then I'd say...

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Postby Brah » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:18 pm

Well you've just destroyed any semblance of camaraderie and sealed your fate as a nimrod on this forum. You seem incapable of an intelligent conversation and to have an ability to understand the meaning of what people are writing.

No need to reply to me, I won't engage you any further though I will continue in this thread as it's a useful one for me.

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Brah wrote:I wonder if this is still the case to the former degree in Europe. I hope so. And I agree, everywhere else should follow suit, though it won't.


Dude, where would you be without Europe? Companies align their behavior with the law. Also it is unusual for Europe to fire in 1 hr., but to prevent this, additional law exist. And why did you mention Japan I have no idea.
And what do you know about Europe? I'm quite sure nothing. Probably you visited some popular tourist destinations like UK, France.

Have you ever been in Poland, for example? It is new European powerhouse.
And check how it looks like on a street view. You may be disappointed with your judgments.

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Re: Singapore & US life cost comparison

Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 2:57 pm

vink2 wrote:
The H1b thing above sounds like a crock. Almost any major company can get you an appropriate visa if they have the need at a given time. The stuff the person above mentioned sounds like it would only be (maybe) relevant if you're trying to work through agencies or head hunters that specifically place Indians (or people from countries like that that have such head hunters or agents)


Only illegally. Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc. all these companies apply for H1b.



I work for a company you didn't mention but is very often grouped with the three you mentioned. We hire and can get the appropriate H* visa for employees no problem any time of the year. There is no 'window' or time frame we worry about. I had an Indian friend on an H1B leave the company and find new employment at another large Silicon Valley MNC in weeks with no problems.

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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 3:01 pm

Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: Your opinion will likely vary if (no offense) you're from a third world country with a much shittier quality of life than Singapore and are perfectly content to eek out a base existence here:


Quality of life in itself is a very bad metric to judge a place.


I mean actual honest quality of life as perceived by an individual, not some stupid quantitive metric from a random organization or publication that a country may choose to congratulate themselves about.

And you Rev are the exception-Indian. Just go through so many posts here from Indian PR-applicants trying to game the system to see numerous examples are reasons why they prefer to live here than there. I also suspect through that your salary/compensation (here or there) is better than most Indian IT works could hope for. Your English comprehension and composition skills alone show that you're an exception and not the norm amongst your peers here.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 5:05 pm

But he's still learning. Remember this is his 3rd Nick here....... :-|

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Postby Wd40 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 5:40 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: Your opinion will likely vary if (no offense) you're from a third world country with a much shittier quality of life than Singapore and are perfectly content to eek out a base existence here:


Quality of life in itself is a very bad metric to judge a place.


I mean actual honest quality of life as perceived by an individual, not some stupid quantitive metric from a random organization or publication that a country may choose to congratulate themselves about.

And you Rev are the exception-Indian. Just go through so many posts here from Indian PR-applicants trying to game the system to see numerous examples are reasons why they prefer to live here than there. I also suspect through that your salary/compensation (here or there) is better than most Indian IT works could hope for. Your English comprehension and composition skills alone show that you're an exception and not the norm amongst your peers here.


Thanks for the compliment.
Most Indians who are coming here are to make money and not necessarily for better QoL. Why else do you think they are such big abusers? If QoL was the concern they would stick on here through the bad times as well.

There are very few though who get used to the good life here if they are earning well and hence refuse to go back.

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Postby vink2 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 9:14 pm

Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: Your opinion will likely vary if (no offense) you're from a third world country with a much shittier quality of life than Singapore and are perfectly content to eek out a base existence here:


Quality of life in itself is a very bad metric to judge a place.


I mean actual honest quality of life as perceived by an individual, not some stupid quantitive metric from a random organization or publication that a country may choose to congratulate themselves about.

And you Rev are the exception-Indian. Just go through so many posts here from Indian PR-applicants trying to game the system to see numerous examples are reasons why they prefer to live here than there. I also suspect through that your salary/compensation (here or there) is better than most Indian IT works could hope for. Your English comprehension and composition skills alone show that you're an exception and not the norm amongst your peers here.


Thanks for the compliment.
Most Indians who are coming here are to make money and not necessarily for better QoL. Why else do you think they are such big abusers? If QoL was the concern they would stick on here through the bad times as well.

There are very few though who get used to the good life here if they are earning well and hence refuse to go back.


I know lots of Indian who want to return back to India after Singapore. This says a lot.

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Postby vink2 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 9:16 pm

Brah wrote:Well you've just destroyed any semblance of camaraderie and sealed your fate as a nimrod on this forum. You seem incapable of an intelligent conversation and to have an ability to understand the meaning of what people are writing.

No need to reply to me, I won't engage you any further though I will continue in this thread as it's a useful one for me.


So... go to bed :D :D :D

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Re: Singapore & US life cost comparison

Postby vink2 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 9:17 pm

zzm9980 wrote:I work for a company you didn't mention but is very often grouped with the three you mentioned. We hire and can get the appropriate H* visa for employees no problem any time of the year. There is no 'window' or time frame we worry about. I had an Indian friend on an H1B leave the company and find new employment at another large Silicon Valley MNC in weeks with no problems.


This may depends on nationality. Say, Chile & Singapore has free trade agreement with US and it is easier for them to get H1b visa.

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Postby vink2 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 9:19 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Vink2....

Considering JR8 is living in Germany at the moment, I'd say you have a massive case of......


Or if you had done your homework here before spouting off and you still wrote that, then I'd say...





It's stupid to say that Germany equals Europe. Germany is very small part of Europe. Do you have more pics? Very interesting rubbish, says a lot about poster intelligence :) :) :)

Ah, yes, and what alternatives compare to Europe do you have?
Do you see many Europeans with Singapore citizenship?
Nope. Do you know why? Because for us Singapore is good for some time with expatriate package, of course. 8-)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 9:34 pm

In fact, I do. My boss's wife is one such.

They say a pic is worth a thousand words. Why should I go to great lengths typing when a pic says it all. Pot? Kettle? Black?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 9:36 pm

Oh, she also has a M.Sc in Biology as well to compliment it. I'm sure there are probably more, but that's one that immediately comes to mind in my own circle of friends.

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Postby vink2 » Sun, 27 Jan 2013 9:40 pm

Guys, some western European countries is not Europe, even those countries are very developed. Central & Eastern Europe is continue to raise, on the other hand.
Scandinavian countries, for example, the most developed and advanced countries on Earth. Don't tell me Germany, UK, Spain - I'm not a big fan of these countries.
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