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Chances of getting PR

Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 9:47 am

misty.misty wrote:Hi all,

I also submitted my application last december. What are my chances like and how long do you think the process will take?

Below are my details,

Malaysian, Female, 26 years old
Master degree (Chemical Engineering)
EP, only been working for 6months
Length of stay in Sg: 16years

Thank you so much!
After two years of working, probably a shoe-in.
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Post by offshoreoildude » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:03 pm

misty.misty wrote:Hi all,

I also submitted my application last december. What are my chances like and how long do you think the process will take?

Below are my details,

Malaysian, Female, 26 years old
Master degree (Chemical Engineering)
EP, only been working for 6months
Length of stay in Sg: 16years

Thank you so much!
Easy call, esp as you are still of breeding age (I think the cut off is 35 by seeing the amount of propaganda around about women bearing mongloids after 35).
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My PR is rejected

Post by luckystar88 » Mon, 08 Jul 2013 4:44 pm

Hi,

I just received my PR notification recently and my PR application is failed.

If I would like to appeal my PR application, have anyone can give me some sample appeal letter for reference? Have anyone can give some ideas to appeal the PR application.

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.

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Re: My PR is rejected

Post by nakatago » Mon, 08 Jul 2013 5:26 pm

luckystar88 wrote:Hi,

I just received my PR notification recently and my PR application is failed.

If I would like to appeal my PR application, have anyone can give me some sample appeal letter for reference? Have anyone can give some ideas to appeal the PR application.

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.
Nothing about your profile is outstanding and an appeal would only be a waste of time. Why don't you just try again when your profile significantly improves?
luckystar88 wrote:Malaysian Chinese (Female), Single, 24yrs old
Bachelor Degree holder(Computer Science)
My situations:
First job worked as Admin assistant in SG since Aug 2011 and held WP
Second job worked as Junior Designer in SG since Mar 2012 and held S Pass
Third job worked as System Administrator in SG since Sep 2012 and held EP which will expire in 2014. I changed to System Administrator because my second job company faced financial problem and i was forced to change job
Annual income over 22K
Not pay income tax yet and get exempted in 2012
Need to pay income tax in April 2013
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Post by Shir » Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:33 pm

Hi all,

i got a cousin who came in to work in in sg only two yrs upon Aug 2013.
the following is her criteria, she would like to know about her chances of getting a PR:

a) Malaysian Chinese, 26
b) degree holder
b) working/stay in sg about 02 yrs.
c) working in current company <1 year with S$28k per annum.
d) EP holder and previously was a WP holder.

Please advise about her chances of getting a PR.
Thank You.

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Post by nakatago » Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:58 pm

Shir wrote:Hi all,
only two yrs upon Aug 2013.

b) working/stay in sg about 02 yrs.
c) working in current company <1 year with S$28k per annum.
d) EP holder and previously was a WP holder.
Low. Only thing in favor is Malaysian Chinese.
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Post by Shir » Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:26 am

Tks nakatago for your reply.

anything affect her the most?
Kindly clarify more.

Tks again.

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Cutoff age for PR applicants?

Post by mpherr » Sun, 21 Jul 2013 4:36 pm

Couldn't find any information on this matter so far. Both, my wife and I (Germans, 55/56) thinking about applying for PR. Living in SG since 2011 (2 tax cycles), both working with a total income of 20K+/month, me with EP for a Singapore company, her under letter of consent for an international institution. Apart from the general question of "why do you want to...", what are our chances to get our application approved?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 21 Jul 2013 6:31 pm

Tricky question.

At first glance I'd say pretty good.

But upon closer inspection, I'd have to ask what could be in it for Singapore? What industry are you in and at what level? How much longer can you work? Odds of having children to contribute to the economy are virtually nil. Health considerations after retirement? Drain on the economy? Or are you planning on investing heavily in Singapore businesses - several million or so? I would be interested you your reasons for wanting PR as well at this late date.

I'd only give it a 50:50 chance on the face of it, truth be known. BUT. I've been wrong before, so go for it. There is nothing to lose.
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Post by mpherr » Sun, 21 Jul 2013 6:49 pm

Thanks for the quick reply! Confirmed my gut feelings.

What is in it for Singapore? Taxes only
Investing millions? Nope, but a few 100K to partner a well established local trading company.
How much longer to work? at least another 10 years
Retirement? Back in Europe
Why becoming PR at this late stage? Just to be on the safe side job wise. Apart from being eligible to buying HDB on the 2nd market (which I don't intend at this stage) I don't see any advantages, maybe CPF contribution (and senior citizen discounts ;-). Would you go for it?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 21 Jul 2013 7:58 pm

Probably the wrong person to ask. So, there is nothing in it for Singapore at all. This country has some of the lowest direct taxes in the world (direct taxes). GST no worse than most other countries and considerably less than a lot.

Frankly, Permanent Resident is designed for those who really want to stay here and is supposed to be a stepping stone to Citizenship. In your case, the desire would be considered to be one sided, with you gaining all and Singapore possibly losing more. There are no real advantages other than the possibility of turning a small profit on the sale of your flat. The CPF contributions are your own money anyway. Had I come here for a couple of years at your age, I don't think I would. I, on the other had was 36 when I arrived here 30 years ago, single. My wife is local.

My honest opinion? It's the abuse of PR for you own personal reasons with only one gaining out of the equation. It's blunt, and for that I apologize, but it is what it is.
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Post by mpherr » Sun, 21 Jul 2013 9:05 pm

Thank you very much for this clear statement. I have to admit that I didn#t look at it this way so far but it all makes perfectly sense walking in the shoes of the SG government. I'd rather have a blunt answer than a so-so soft-washed one. Thanks for taking your time and sharing your experience.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 21 Jul 2013 9:36 pm

Thank you. For seeing it as it was meant to be. One has to remember the biggest complaint currently affecting the local populace is the crowded neighbourhood. This is the overriding complaint and the venom against PRs is, in a lot of cases, highly warranted, sad to say.
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Re: chances of Getting PR

Post by FaeLLe » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 4:57 pm

sekarankumar wrote:Hi,
I'm Planning to submit PR application on coming May
My application was rejected 4 time before
I'm working in Singapore since 2006,
Im from India completed my BE and holding EP with a salary of 4000$ and my also working and earning 3000$ and my son is going for Play grp now
advice me the chances of getting PR this year
Your socio economic status will work against you - your cash inflow is too low and outflow is too high.

In my belief, the gahmen would not see much benefit in granting you a PR not to mention 4 application rejections in 7 years of being here is not at all a positive outcome.

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