The password bit, definitely an attempt to pull a fast one. Don't give it!martincymru wrote:My friend's sister was flying Clark to Sg.
PH immigration have asked for my friends details (name, address, work permit etc. - she lives in Sg Domestic Helper). Also they asked for her email address and ...... wait for it..... password.
Has anyone ever heard of this before?
Btw she is tourist visitor. one month, has funds and return ticket. Housewife in PH. This is 2nd time refusal, 1st time was no invitation letter.
Yes, Philippine immigration is such a big pain. So is customs. Some of these people find the flimsiest excuse to bother people and using logic don't work against them--they're usually motivated by money (customs) and to a lesser extent, power trip.Steve1960 wrote:Unfortunately there is no magic answer. It seems exit from the Philippines can often be entirely down to what a particular immigration officer decides. Shortly after I met my Filipina wife I flew her to Hong Kong as I was on business there. PH immigration initially turned her away despite the fact that she had an invitation letter, was flying with a premium airline (see below) copy of the hotel reservation with her name on it, a copy of my business card and passport, money in her wallet, photographs of us together etc etc etc
I think the immigration officer was looking for shall we say a 'compensatory payment' for allowing her to leave![]()
It was only due to her perseverance and refusal to leave the immigration area that they let her through. I think the officer became concerned that she was drawing attention to the situation!
Of course every coin has two sides. The immigration officers are also trying to stop girls leaving the country to work as prostitutes in other countries which makes them quite aggressive with females travelling alone.
Airlines make a difference too. Make a flight reservation with a well known cheap carrier and it seems the girls are more often turned away at PH immigration.
But won't that move provoke them to cause literal pain (to ass)?nakatago wrote:Yes, Philippine immigration is such a big pain. So is customs. Some of these people find the flimsiest excuse to bother people and using logic don't work against them--they're usually motivated by money (customs) and to a lesser extent, power trip.Steve1960 wrote:Unfortunately there is no magic answer. It seems exit from the Philippines can often be entirely down to what a particular immigration officer decides. Shortly after I met my Filipina wife I flew her to Hong Kong as I was on business there. PH immigration initially turned her away despite the fact that she had an invitation letter, was flying with a premium airline (see below) copy of the hotel reservation with her name on it, a copy of my business card and passport, money in her wallet, photographs of us together etc etc etc
I think the immigration officer was looking for shall we say a 'compensatory payment' for allowing her to leave![]()
It was only due to her perseverance and refusal to leave the immigration area that they let her through. I think the officer became concerned that she was drawing attention to the situation!
Of course every coin has two sides. The immigration officers are also trying to stop girls leaving the country to work as prostitutes in other countries which makes them quite aggressive with females travelling alone.
Airlines make a difference too. Make a flight reservation with a well known cheap carrier and it seems the girls are more often turned away at PH immigration.
What you could do is, as they're doing their "swindle," grab a pen and start scribbling. When asked, tell them you're writing their name because you were told that if you ever face issues, just report them to the national branch of their department or to the media.
nakatago wrote:The official line is all Filipinos (not just those females of the *ahem* entertainment industry) should go through two government agencies first for their own protection if they're going abroad to work.
Of course, the unintended consequence is that it's a major pain in the arse for everybody else who do not need protection are at least well capable of keeping out of trouble who wishes to travel.
For example:
Juan dela Cruz gets a working visa for, let's say, Canada. Canada will let him in with no problems, the only paperwork required is his passport and visa. However, he won't be allowed to leave the Philippines without going through POEA and have to register with OWWA first then must show his Canadian visa, a certificate from POEA, OWWA membership, cerficiate from the employment agency, letter of invitation from the host country, certificate of employment from his company in Canada, NBI clearance, DOST clearance, Bureau of Immigration clearance, Uncle Bob's Lucky Seven Club ID, Justice League Super Secret Friendship club ID, etc.
Note, though, that all these require some form of payment. Hence, Filipinas who go abroad who hope to raise their families out of poverty tend to have huge debts just to be able to leave the country to work legally.
Silly white man.Steve1960 wrote:nakatago wrote:The official line is all Filipinos (not just those females of the *ahem* entertainment industry) should go through two government agencies first for their own protection if they're going abroad to work.
Of course, the unintended consequence is that it's a major pain in the arse for everybody else who do not need protection are at least well capable of keeping out of trouble who wishes to travel.
For example:
Juan dela Cruz gets a working visa for, let's say, Canada. Canada will let him in with no problems, the only paperwork required is his passport and visa. However, he won't be allowed to leave the Philippines without going through POEA and have to register with OWWA first then must show his Canadian visa, a certificate from POEA, OWWA membership, cerficiate from the employment agency, letter of invitation from the host country, certificate of employment from his company in Canada, NBI clearance, DOST clearance, Bureau of Immigration clearance, Uncle Bob's Lucky Seven Club ID, Justice League Super Secret Friendship club ID, etc.
Note, though, that all these require some form of payment. Hence, Filipinas who go abroad who hope to raise their families out of poverty tend to have huge debts just to be able to leave the country to work legally.
Stop it please you have caused me to have those nighmares again about the ordeals I went through to get my wife out of the Philippines. I don't want to think about how many hours we spent in Government offices waiting...........forever waiting and the NSO in Quezon City was created by the devil himself to make my life a misery
Unless of course one is short of time to get everything done during fleeting visits to Manila (requiring something from the NSO to take to yet another Government office) and / or one has already located their family to Singapore and has no address in Manilanakatago wrote:Steve1960 wrote:nakatago wrote: Silly white man.
You don't go to NSO in East Avenue. You call them up and have your documents delivered to you. 300-500 pesos is peanuts compared to the headache and time you'll lose there.
It's an "express-and-convenience" fee sanctioned. It's a "bribe" without the guilt but with a receipt.
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