Let's be clear. I'm not looking for sympathy. I am asking for confirmation on how to renounce. Why haven't you taken up citizenship if it were so good there? Afraid that the PAP would pull a fast one on you. I agree with you that it was an obligation if I intended to stay a Singaporean. We did put family needs over country, and this is why lots of people migrate. It's like quitting a job. Once you quit, you have no obligations to your old job.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Don't blame me. What don't I get about it? Blame your parents for not following proper protocol. Thousands follow the proper procedure every year and don't have a problem. So, be sure to thank your parents for the mess you are in. Why didn't you check out you liabilities when you were a teen? Surely you knew that it was an obligation and yet you didn't check out your options. You just buried your head in the sand and just hoped it would go away. Your arrogance surpasses mine by a long shot because you were only looking for some agreement/sympathy here. When it didn't come, you started getting antsy. Good Luck.OneGoodSon wrote:Listen to yourself! You sound so cynical. What kind of moderator is so insulting?sundaymorningstaple wrote: You are funny as hell, OneDebatableSon, I'm a PR and not a citizen and have been one for 25 years. So I didn't vote for the PAP. I have news for you. You are a dual citizen and will continue to be so until you sort out your NS obligation. The fact that you can submit your renunciation via form does not mean the government will or has to accept it. The same is true of the United States in that regard.
It's just like the MOM self assessment test regarding the gaining of an employment pass. It only means they will accept the application form if you qualify, but it does not mean that they will GIVE you the pass.
Therefore, you will always be a dual citizen and the moment you end up in Singapore against your wishes is the moment your worst nightmares will come true. Frankly, if it were up to me, I definitely give you your renunciation as the country is better of without worthless users of oxygen who have chicken blood running in their veins. If you didn't like how the country was being run, why didn't you do something about it? No cojones? Oh, that's obvious, as you ran away from your birthright obligations. Dog help the country who has you now as they don't realize what a mistake they've made.
Look I didn't run away from my obligations. My whole family decided to move FROM Singapore to start a new life somewhere else. What don't you get about this?
And please stop thinking you are better than me, or others. Your arrogance is not warranted in this forum. And you should NOT be a moderator.
Oh, I am not replying in a moderators mode. If I am, you would already have known it.
I am not antsy because I have no intentions on visiting Singapore again. Like I said, all I intend to do is to renounce and sever. What I did at 16 years of age by emigrating is NOT a crime. It might be in the eyes of the Singapore PAP party. There was no harm done except that it did not satisfy PAP's ideals. I chose NOT to be Singaporean, and the PAP should just accept that their citizens are not robots, but free thinkers to choose their life paths. What they are doing and responses I got from you just affirms my resolve to cut off all official ties with Singapore, and all the shallow and narrow-mindedness associated with that place.
Singapore is nothing more than a glorified dictatorship with the pretense of democracy. Singapore law is the joke of the world, with its kangaroo courts who dare not be contrarian to PAP, in case they get sued and bankrupted themselves. Definitely not a place most people want to live in, unless they have no choice. Given the choice, lots of male Singaporeans would likely choose to RUN far away, except they are bounded by this archaic NS law that ties males to the city state. I personally have met many ex-SAF Air Force personnel who have emigrated 25 years ago and never even set foot again back in Singapore. Why? It's all the ridiculous policies and laws that drive Singaporeans to move! They completely severed all ties, and I guarantee many more will follow, if PAP makes it easier for them. But then again, if Singaporeans have more guts, they would have turfed PAP out long ago. Looks like none of this NS bullshit did not make them able to stand up for themselves. Rather they learn how to be submissive to what PAP is shoving down their throats.
Like what PAP is doing to you. You would make a great follower, NOT a leader. You don't question their policies. You treat what they say as gospel. Not forgiving and understanding of other people's circumstances and the choices they make. Not willing to let bygones be bygones. NOT the kind of person who could survive anywhere else except for tiny Singapore. And that's the reason you are there now. Been 25 years and not a citizen? Tsk Tsk. I became a new citizen of my new country as soon I got the chance. It's just that now I CANNOT get rid of my Singaporean citizenship fast enough. The sad thing is, like you said, they might NOT even let me. What a bunch of crock. Now I hope you work for the PAP and tell them you think they should just let me go because you think I am so unworthy of Singapore, once and for all.
I'm just giving you a piece of my mind because I feel your insulting responses are not warranted in this forum, especially for those trying to find information pertaining to these tricky NS issues. Please be aware that not everyone is as perfect as you. We are trying to right the wrong (in PAP's eyes), and resolve, and move forward. Thank you.