sundaymorningstaple wrote:Wd40 wrote:ecureilx wrote:
Oh boy ..
wd40, what's your take on that ??
No, let's start a new thread for that .. shall we ??
There is big difference between how Indians look at India and how foreigners look at India. Foreigners look at the sum total of the whole country and like to pin point at its weakness. Whereas we Indians look mostly at circumstances that affect us directly. For example if I am from Bangalore, I can't relate to what SMS is saying. To me Bangalore is materialistically better than Singapore, there are stuff that I can afford there which I can't afford here. Now there may be really poor people in India that foreigners like to focus on but I am not affected by it nor is the op nor the burgeoning middle class in India.
Now you ask me why am I here if I could do better in Bangalore. The reason is the cost of living differential means that whatever I save here will have a magnified effect in terms of purchasing power parity in indian terms. The last 3 and half years I have already saved more than what I would have saved had I worked for even 6 years in India. So I can go back now and not even work for the next 2years and yet I am doing fine. That's how most Indians who come abroad think. There are some exceptions though
And you are going to tell me you are the exception, right? I mean, there is the reason you haven't gotten your PR yet. And probably ICA can sense it. You aren't looking for PR, but a long term visa to help you to make money to return to India. So, in all your guises on here, you are still what some would call an abuser, or shall we say, an abuser wannabe (as you haven't gotten the PR yet.).
If I do get PR, I will continue to work and stay here for the long term as long as it is profitable. It could be another 5 years, 10 years.. I dont know. May be I work here for the next 10 years then I would have made enough to retire. I cant really predict beyond that where am I going to be or what I am going to do.
Now if it is not profitable at some point of time say after 5 years salaries completely stagnate here while they keep going up in India, then may be I will move back or move to the next country that is more profitable.
I dont know, to me that is not abuse because I am contributing by being here paying taxes etc. Abuse would be if I just take the PR not because I need it but just to use it as a stepping stone to go to another country or just having the PR buy a HDB and rent it out and go and stay in India etc.
The PR itself is a 5 year deal and just like we need to provide proof of 3 years of tax statements for REP renewal to show we are worth it, so in the same spirit of give and take I would expect the country to show proof that its worth for me staying here.
I know for a long term PR like you that sounds like abuse. But, my reasoning for PR is that it allows you to buy a HDB and mitigate the crazy rents here. If there was a way to get away from paying crazy rents without taking up PR, I am sure lots of people would have opted for it.
Unfortunately that is the only way. Its either take PR and stay for the medium- long term or you are looking at moving out anytime from here. I think the ICA is completely aware of this as most Indians think exactly the way I think. So if we do get PR, then I assume I am not abusing it. If I dont get, well, its not the end of the world for me.