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Post by karanrao » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:14 am

Hi,

My wife, child( girl) & I had applied for PR after 3+ years in Singapore. It was rejected so we appealed, etc and 5 months back got a letter/forms asking for details of siblings & parents.
Is this a positive development? Its been 5 months since and we were wondering whether to submit a letter on the status of our application? Or is is better to just stay quiet & be patient?
Would appreciate some advice and SMS if you have the time some inpit would be welcome.

Also best wishes to all for the New Year!
Thanks
K

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:48 am

When you are asked for the details of parents and siblings, it's a 50:50 chance I'd say. If you have living parents and lots of siblings who are single/young, you may well have a problem as the ICA considers them possible collateral damage and may look on the application adversely as they may be considering your application but if the "costs" demographically are too high, your app may get rejected. On the flip side, if you family (extended) is quite small, then it's a plus in your favour. They may consider your expertise or background as desirable but if the demographic cost is too high it could be a barrier that is hard to cross.

After 6 months, I wouldn't think it would be too amiss to inquire as to the status of your appeal.
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Post by karanrao » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:01 am

Thanks for your insights SMS. Couple of points I need to mention. My wife has 6 siblings but they are all 40+ years and well settled in country of origin. Some are very senior civil administration officers and will never leave their country. Her father too retired as a senior civil servant 20+ years ago and well settled financially. I have a brother 40+ also well settled land owner, father deceased was a senior Air Force officer & mother has large land owning in country of origin. As you can see none of them will ever be "collateral damage" however we have dutifully entered their details in the form. Does this look like it will work against our case?

Also in the request to expedite application I need to enclose an explanatory letter - any suggestions on the reason to be given in this letter?
Thanks appreciate all your suggestions
K

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:21 am

The inner workings and point system that ICA uses is not open for public consumption so we can only guess based on anecdotal evidence we get from others. As far as being land owners, this is basically not a material fact. As to the weightage placed on siblings ages, it would seem, at first glance that it wouldn't be a problem, but again, as I've said, we do NOT know the method of point allocation they use, so it's all conjecture on our part.

As far as enclosing a explanatory letter, I couldn't begin to help there as almost anything you say will be held against you if you try to hurry them up. Think about it. If you say you are worried about your job.... Not good, why would they want to give PR to an unemployed man? If you want to buy an HDB property? Die already, foreigners causing HDB prices to go up! What other reason would make any sense, from an ICA point of view. All your reasons would probably be about what YOU can get out of it. Not what the country can get out of it. Do I make any sense?

What I'm really trying to say it just let it ride. They will finish it when they finish it. Trying to hurry them up may just agitate them with adverse effect. Remember, they are Singaporeans who don't really like foreigners in the first place as they feel foreigners are what's wrong with Singapore. Don't make waves.
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Post by karanrao » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:56 am

Excellent reasoning and I have to defer to your suggestions! Patience is I suppose a virtue in their eyes.
Again appreciate your suggestions on the matter.
Thanks,
K

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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18 pm

Has any of your circumstances changed at the time of appeal? What additional info did you provide in your appeal?

If there is no new info, then it just means that at this point of time, your category of people are considered more favourably compared to the time when you made the original application.

I know several people of your exact similar profile who have been asked to submit additional info, 2 months after submitting their original application and have been waiting for like 4-6 months without any outcome. So I agree with SMS, it's still 50:50.

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Post by karanrao » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:25 pm

Thank you Wd40 I appreciate your input. I guess we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed & pray.

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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:31 pm

karanrao wrote:Thank you Wd40 I appreciate your input. I guess we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed & pray.
Just don't think about it. Let it take it's own time. Find some other interesting things to keep you occupied :)

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:56 pm

Wd40 wrote:Has any of your circumstances changed at the time of appeal? What additional info did you provide in your appeal?

If there is no new info, then it just means that at this point of time, your category of people are considered more favourably compared to the time when you made the original application.

I know several people of your exact similar profile who have been asked to submit additional info, 2 months after submitting their original application and have been waiting for like 4-6 months without any outcome. So I agree with SMS, it's still 50:50.
So you still haven't heard anything either, huh?
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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 27 Dec 2012 6:47 pm

Nope

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