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PR renewal scene in 2013?

Postby Wd40 » Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:35 pm

Hey guys,

As 2008 was the year when record number of PRs were given out to all and sundry and 2013 is when all their renewal is coming up.

With the tightening of PR approvals I would imagine record number of pr renewal rejections happening next year?

This would be a quick way of fixing the skewed demographics in the population as well, wouldn't it?

I hope they do that and 2014 onwards we have PR approvals or rejections based on merit rather than anything else :roll:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 11 Dec 2012 1:09 pm

The non or short term renewal of the REPs has been on the table for a while. It was being discussed recently as well (I was watching this closely) and I heaved a big sigh of relief when they indicated that "long-term" PR's (~20 years) would not be affected in this. So, yeah, I suspect there will be some cryin' of the blues this year. I suspect a lot will get 1 year REPs so as to button up their affairs, as it were.

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Postby offshoreoildude » Tue, 11 Dec 2012 3:03 pm

Well... I've thought for a long time that Singapore 'permanent' residency was really just a visa.... and that visa may come up for cancellation. I suspect SMS might be wrong; even though I hope he is right. That would see Sentosa Cove emptying out pretty quick smart!
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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 11 Dec 2012 3:16 pm

It will not be the REP that they will be tinkering with . It is the tagging along the REP that will make REP renewals a pain. The guideline of 5 years renewal is in correspond with other countries cross border regulation and immigration that Singapore is one of the signatory.
Wait , look and see and you can see the difference. It will be sooner than later I would imagine
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 11 Dec 2012 6:01 pm

Google the following:

No plans to limit duration of PR status: Grace Fu

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Postby offshoreoildude » Tue, 11 Dec 2012 6:25 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:It will not be the REP that they will be tinkering with . It is the tagging along the REP that will make REP renewals a pain. The guideline of 5 years renewal is in correspond with other countries cross border regulation and immigration that Singapore is one of the signatory.
Wait , look and see and you can see the difference. It will be sooner than later I would imagine


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Postby kinghanayorid » Mon, 28 Jan 2013 8:01 pm

Hi! I have taken a look at the overall PR 2012 outlook mentioned. Now I have a question.

It looks like indeed the 2008 year is the best time to apply. Now for me, I am 47 yrs old this year. I got my PR in November 2008 and I am considered very lucky to get it on time. However, I'm renewing my PR later on Sep 2013 as my PR is expiring.

I heard from many people outside that it will be hard for someone who is above 45 yrs old and only earning $2100 salary as I do. Older applicant needs to earn higher income of minimum $3k above. Moreover, I'm still single and not married to a Singapore Citizen. However, I am renewing my PR and I heard there is a slight different between an existing PR and newcomer. Is it true or renewing is almost the same nowadays with the newcomer? If yes, I think I got very high chance of not being renewed!

I need some advise! Thank u.

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 28 Jan 2013 8:27 pm

I guess nobody knows for sure but I would expect most of the elements applicable to the new PR may be also applicable to the REP renewal (different weight and magnitude perhaps). I.e. If you have sons (PRs) and you are non-PRC Chinese your chances would be high even with the low income. On top of this if you abused the system any way (i.e. not applying for PR for your sons) this would work strongly against you.

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Re: PR renewal scene in 2013?

Postby FaeLLe » Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:21 am

Wd40 wrote:Hey guys,

As 2008 was the year when record number of PRs were given out to all and sundry and 2013 is when all their renewal is coming up.

With the tightening of PR approvals I would imagine record number of pr renewal rejections happening next year?

This would be a quick way of fixing the skewed demographics in the population as well, wouldn't it?

I hope they do that and 2014 onwards we have PR approvals or rejections based on merit rather than anything else :roll:


Quite an interesting point of view.... given this change to fix the skewed demographics and not renewing REP might be an ideal opportunity for the government to re-align on its policies.

Considering this, would 2013 be a good year for those fitting the ideal "criteria" to try apply for PR?

Would give the gahmen an opportunity to prevent the withdrawal (brain drain) of the skilled and still maintain or lower the "race" ratio while still improving the quality of PR's in the nation..

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:31 am

It's actually not a point of view, but fact. They've already stated as much over a year ago. Brain drain? Seeing what we've seen the gahmen let in over the past 8 to 10 years, I don't think it'll be much of a drain. In fact, it would be more like draining the swamp.

Truth be told, I don't see anything positive happening until after 2016. PAP won't do nothing untoward before the next GE as they were stung rather hard this weekend. I think it's going to be a lot of read it and weep and and lot of 1 year plus waits on PR applications for those applied for after 2013. The days of wine and roses is well and truly over.

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Postby FaeLLe » Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:36 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:It's actually not a point of view, but fact. They've already stated as much over a year ago. Brain drain? Seeing what we've seen the gahmen let in over the past 8 to 10 years, I don't think it'll be much of a drain. In fact, it would be more like draining the swamp.

Truth be told, I don't see anything positive happening until after 2016. PAP won't do nothing untoward before the next GE as they were stung rather hard this weekend. I think it's going to be a lot of read it and weep and and lot of 1 year plus waits on PR applications for those applied for after 2013. The days of wine and roses is well and truly over.


Agree with you what I meant by prevent brain drain is they need to give PR to those who deserve it at a minimum to prevent them from seeking greener pastures....

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Postby offshoreoildude » Tue, 29 Jan 2013 8:10 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:It's actually not a point of view, but fact. They've already stated as much over a year ago. Brain drain? Seeing what we've seen the gahmen let in over the past 8 to 10 years, I don't think it'll be much of a drain. In fact, it would be more like draining the swamp.

Truth be told, I don't see anything positive happening until after 2016. PAP won't do nothing untoward before the next GE as they were stung rather hard this weekend. I think it's going to be a lot of read it and weep and and lot of 1 year plus waits on PR applications for those applied for after 2013. The days of wine and roses is well and truly over.


I concur. As for REP we have seen one senior minister state that REP non renewals is pretty much not on the table - yet. I do agree that marginal cases for REP non -renewals (such as people non resident, people who have criminal records, people who are financially insolvent and hence a state burden) may increase but I don't think we see some drastic tightening. Remember that underneath all this we suspect the PAP is pushing for 7MM people still.
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Postby Aragorn2000 » Tue, 29 Jan 2013 1:00 pm

I've renewed mine recently. No issue.

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Postby bro75 » Wed, 30 Jan 2013 9:44 am

They are tightening PR approvals for some nationalities and this also includes dependents of PRs, so you will see a lot of PR families where the youngest children is on LTVP. Hope this will improve soon. I do not see any issue with REP renewals for now.

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Postby morenangpinay » Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:25 am

so what about the news today http://sg.news.yahoo.com/singapore-popu ... 49845.html

half of population to be foreigners in 2030


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