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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 09 Dec 2012 1:42 pm

Brah wrote:To be honest, I have yet to hear anyone who has lived here, liked it, and left, saying that they missed living here; I have heard mostly the opposite.


I know of two people who do fit in that category, but they're both Chinese Indonesian and moved on to the US. I suspect they mostly just want to be close to home.

I also have a SGn friend who is about to move to the US. I'll be interested to hear her take in a couple of years.

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Postby nakatago » Sun, 09 Dec 2012 2:46 pm

Brah wrote:Interesting to hear, MS.

To be honest, I have yet to hear anyone who has lived here, liked it, and left, saying that they missed living here; I have heard mostly the opposite.

That is not to say they regretted their experience, I think in more cases than not they liked it, and that it was more of a been-there-done-that kind of thing.

There are two variables - people returning to their home countries, and people moving on to other countries.


I think it's because either the kool-aid has run out or it doesn't affect them anymore.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sun, 09 Dec 2012 3:26 pm

You see, Brah
As a government official , you came across many things that are against your basic human principles and beliefs.
You know those things are wrong and complete injustice had been done and will always be but on the other hand these are the very people that feed you and complete obedience or "toe the line" is an absolute necessary.
I have lost faith in what I believe in Singapore system and its ruling party. I dare say, and even challenge anyone who can show me that I am wrong.
The very people that protect and feed you is the very same people that kick your bum big time
The positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible.Yahoo !!!

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Postby Sergei82 » Sun, 09 Dec 2012 6:59 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:Now, turning 60 very soon, and comparing Singapore with other places that I am living, could not feel but relieved with the call I made to get out of Singapore.

Can you elaborate this sentence on the subject of concrete locations?
Because I haven't decided yet where to go, I've just decided that I'm not staying here in the long run. :)

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Postby jojoane » Sun, 09 Dec 2012 8:12 pm

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Postby Brah » Sun, 09 Dec 2012 8:29 pm

Thanks for the profound contribution to the conversation.

Oh, what's that in your sig? Ah, you're a troll...who will be gone soon.
jojoane wrote:Sorry to hear that. I hope things turn better soon.

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Postby noskich » Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:10 am

Mad Scientist wrote:You see, Brah
I have lost faith in what I believe in Singapore system and its ruling party. I dare say, and even challenge anyone who can show me that I am wrong.
The very people that protect and feed you is the very same people that kick your bum big time


As someone planning to move to Singapore from Australia I would love to hear more what is behind the quote above.
Thanks.

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Postby carteki » Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:32 am

The people who settle in Singapore don't care about others. All they care about are themselves and what they can get out of the system. They like that it is safe, ordered etc. I had an interesting discussion with a 3rd gen expat (holds SG ppt) who was looking at ways of her potential male offspring avoid ns. She had no clue about the rules regarding ns and citizens and birth to citizens, but still has no plans to leave SG.

It is as MS says - if you are one of the few people who actually sees and understands how the system works and thinks beyond their own social circle, then Singapore feels more and more like a prison state that is there to enrich the few and leaves everyone else behind.

To the person looking at moving from Aus - Only you can answer the question based on what you want. Do you want to live in a safe secure environment where you have no rights, but since you have enough money it is not an issue and you don't really care what happens to the others or know what happens to others, but don't really care. You'll be okay here. If you care - well, then you'll struggle. There are other factors too - like the sameness of society, the lack of culture. Read through the forum and you may get a sense of what irks the people who are already here, but some people love it, others hate it and can't wait to leave.


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