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Best Visa or Pass to hunt for a job

Postby Zen77 » Sat, 01 Dec 2012 7:36 pm

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Postby JayCee » Sat, 01 Dec 2012 7:39 pm

Go and stay in Malaysia for a while and only come into Singapore when you've got meetings or job interviews. It'll be much cheaper too.
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Postby Zen77 » Sat, 01 Dec 2012 7:45 pm

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Postby Zen77 » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 12:54 pm

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Postby offshoreoildude » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 5:34 pm

What you want is not easy. If you can't find a job in a month or so you're probably not going to find one in 12 months anyways. Used LinkedIn.
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Postby Zen77 » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 6:14 pm

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 8:16 pm

Zen77 wrote:Singapore:
1. I know its the expensive one...but if somehow I manage free of cost accommodation would you think it'll be a better choice?

If you don't have a pre-planned attack, the money is going to be wasted anyway.

2. What other than visit visa I can do to stay long in Singapore?....for PEP(personalized employment pass) I do not qualify authentically so are there any agents who can work out this?

NO. It's illegal and MOM is not going to be so dumb as to believe you are earning a minimum of $12,000/month in Pakistan in the first place. Anybody who says that can get it for you are full of Poo!

3. On visit visa can I shuttle between Malaysia and Singapore?..like one or 3 months in Singapore and before expiration go to Malaysia on visit and then come back to Singapore again? ..without coming back to Pakistan?

Maybe once, but as you are from Pakistan the odds of getting more than two weeks on the return are highly unlikely. The second time out, you will probably be told not to return for a minimum of 6 months which means leaving anything you still left behind in Singapore will have to stay and you will have to depart for Pakistan from M'sia.
4. Please suggest the best possible route to keep my stay longer in Singapore.

It's not going to happen. Do as Offshoreoildude as suggested. Used LinkIn. This is your best best, frankly. Any other way is going to be expensive and fraught with failure. People in the Advertising/Media industries are dime a dozen here with good ones not have to chase after jobs at all. I already know you aren't one of the chosen few as had you been, you wouldn't need to come on here looking for ways to scam ICA. My advice? look for a job in M'sia or Pakistan.

Thanks..your reply pointer wise will highly be appreciated.

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Postby taxico » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 8:17 pm

Zen77 wrote:...I'm dividing my routes in 2 ways; (all consultants in Pakistan saying different things from each other n they are not reliable either so that's why Im asking from you..kindly help)

1. By staying in Malaysia
2. By staying in Singapore

Malaysia:
1. What is the difference between professional visa & DP-10?..kindly also tell about DP-11
2. I was interested in DP-10 but then somebody told me that theres another service category visa of one year(cheaper than DP-10), infact there's also a plantation category visa which is much cheaper?
3. As my intention primarily to get these types of visa is to stay there for long period legally to hunt for a job (so that then the company who hires me will issue my work visa.. rather doing jobs on my own visa ) so would it make any difference which category visa I'll be there?..or even DP-10 for that matter?
4. What is the advantage of I-kad?...can I go to Singapore without visa on this?..can I get I-kad by obtaining any category type visa?
5. What is the cost for DP-10, service category visa and plantation category visa?
6. Most importantly please refer me some reliable, authentic agent,consultant in Malaysia((because there many cases of corruption) who can work out things for me. In Pakistan what consultants are doing is they dont do anything by themselves they get things done through Malaysian agents which in the end doubles the cost.


you should try malaysian expats forum. google is your friend.

Zen77 wrote:Singapore:
1. I know its the expensive one...but if somehow I manage free of cost accommodation would you think it'll be a better choice?
2. What other than visit visa I can do to stay long in Singapore?....for PEP(personalized employment pass) I do not qualify authentically so are there any agents who can work out this?
3. On visit visa can I shuttle between Malaysia and Singapore?..like one or 3 months in Singapore and before expiration go to Malaysia on visit and then come back to Singapore again?..without coming back to Pakistan?
4. Please suggest the best possible route to keep my stay longer in Singapore.


1. i don't know coz it depends. if you can get free lodging, why not? whether it's a better choice, i don't know. if you live somewhere that is often targeted by MOM or Vice, it's probably not a good idea. but heck, it's free and you're not technically doing anything illegal... so...

2. none. i'm sure there are unscrupulous agents that can give you ways to stay on. google is your friend. or you can get married to a singaporean and maybe you can get some sort of long term social visit pass (one has no working rights, the other has)

3. sure you can. but sooner or later you will be stopped and questioned and maybe banned from entering singapore for a period of time.

4. i know of qualified students that come to singapore to do post-grad studies and go on a leave of absence when they find a job. it's not illegal, but it's not easy nor is it cheap.

further, i do not know your definition of "best possible route." you can invest a bajillion dollars in singapore and you'll probably be allowed to live and work here.

or you can move an impressive pakistani company (say... system innovations?) to singapore and head it - the singapore government may give you a chunk of visas but given the current climate, i doubt it's easy.

good luck!

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Postby Zen77 » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 8:40 pm

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Postby offshoreoildude » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 9:19 pm

Zen77 wrote:Thanks 'Taxico' & 'sundaymorningstaple'. For 'sundaymorningstaple' I would like to say that your answers were quite up to the mark but being moderator does not mean that you are 'psychic' enough to accuse my intention for some scam. All I asked in my questions were legal solutions. So you shouldn't have ruined your helpful reply by commenting demeaningly.


Look - I've been to Pakistan. 90% of the country is impoverished and the rest are money launderers, illegal drug producers and government employees. (And don't deny it - there is NO middle class in Pakistan - a number one indicator of a country mired in corruption and cronyism). DON'T come here abusing us for free advice. We know, more than the ignorant ICA, exactly the sort of craps you people are up to.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 9:59 pm

Zen77 wrote:Thanks 'Taxico' & 'sundaymorningstaple'. For 'sundaymorningstaple' I would like to say that your answers were quite up to the mark but being moderator does not mean that you are 'psychic' enough to accuse my intention for some scam. All I asked in my questions were legal solutions. So you shouldn't have ruined your helpful reply by commenting demeaningly.


Zen77 wrote:so are there any agents who can work out this?



Please tell me where I falsely accused you of having intentions to scam anybody? I realize English is not your first language, so maybe you want to go back and carefully read what you wrote.

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Postby taxico » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 10:34 pm

Zen77 wrote:...All I asked in my questions were legal solutions. So you shouldn't have ruined your helpful reply by commenting demeaningly.


basically, your questions were all pointed to:

HOW CAN I COME TO SINGAPORE AND STAY LONG ENOUGH ON A TOURIST VISA IN ORDER TO FIND A JOB?

you're trying to work the system. remember; social visit visas are for... tourists. ie, for the visa holder to tour singapore (including medical tourism) and/or visit friends and relatives.

while looking at the ica website (www.ica.gov.sg) i found out that a paskistan national can only extend his/her stay to 89 days with a singapore sponsor, provided he/she has never extended it prior for the same visit.

more info here:

http://www.ica.gov.sg/services_centre_o ... pageid=254

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 10:39 pm

Zen77 wrote: Im trying to think n work out the best way through which I'll be able to stay longer (like one year or 2) until I can hunt a job without coming back to Pakistan.
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- If you can afford to not work for maybe two years in Singapore (expensive place), why as a Pakistani in Pakistan (cheap place) do you need a job at all?

- Why would anyone need to job-hunt for as long as two years (unless they were unemployable, or applying for positions for which they are unqualified).

- Your questions suggest to me that staying in Singapore for up to two years is the desired end that you are seeking, and you're trying to backfill a means to that end.

Please don't take this personally; I hope you will welcome it as constructive observation. I have little doubt that ICA would read it in a similar way. So, apart from the facts of the matter, you face a battle of perceptions.

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Postby Zen77 » Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:49 pm

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Postby taxico » Mon, 03 Dec 2012 1:55 am

Zen77 wrote:...How long I can be other than the 89 day limit of visit legally...that is what I'm trying to figure out and there's nothing more there to read below the lines.

One can always go back to their home country and come back again but my perception is... that would break the flow of my job hunting process and the contacts I want to establish...


you don't seem to understand... this is not very possible since you have no ties/kin in singapore. (that's your answer)

trying to find a way around it is to try to skirt immigration laws.

Zen77 wrote:...How well Singapore welcomes people from around the globe will always be subjective but there's definitely discrimination as you can see from the replies if not from the government itself. One does not do or plan everything for monetary purposes, as Singapore is Asia's best creative hub, I've all the right to strive hard and to find each n possible way to be a part of it to share & gain knowledge.


wait till you try the same thing in a country like australia... immigration officers will profile you and rifle through your bags and question you as to why you have academic qualifications and letters of recommendations and CVs in your possession.

then they'll lock you up. then they'll deport you. and they'll bar you from re-entering. too effing bad.

this doesn't happen in singapore, so why push it by trying to circumvent the law?

there are procedures in place for "foreign talent" to go through to work in singapore (although tightened recently) but it certainly does not usually include staying here beyond 90 days on a social visit visa.

don't keep throwing out words like scams and discrimination.

the replies you see here are not discriminatory and i dare say darn near all of us on this forum are against it.


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