If you could, no Asian would want to move to Australia/UK/US.zzm9980 wrote: +1
It's hard to convey emotional or personal preference towards something in a list of pros and cons. Experience you just can't quantify.

How about riding a ferry?ScoobyDoes wrote:I used to live out in the country park, not the city, so the air was fresher, there was more space, it was more relaxed and I could park my car at the house for free all the while paying the equivalent of S$1k for 700sqft.
I heard that the buses in HK are not that "friendly", and the MTR can be packed as well. Still, as long as it's safer than Jakarta, I'll say yes.nutnut wrote:I would be interested in hearing about the commute to and from the city from the areas you lived. Are you happy to say where you lived in regards to the location and how long your commute was by MTR/car/bus?
v4jr4 wrote:I heard that the buses in HK are not that "friendly", and the MTR can be packed as well. Still, as long as it's safer than Jakarta, I'll say yes.nutnut wrote:I would be interested in hearing about the commute to and from the city from the areas you lived. Are you happy to say where you lived in regards to the location and how long your commute was by MTR/car/bus?
For me it was a little different.......living and working in the New Territories.nutnut wrote:I would be interested in hearing about the commute to and from the city from the areas you lived. Are you happy to say where you lived in regards to the location and how long your commute was by MTR/car/bus?
My friends who went to HK said that buses are pretty "wild", while they didn't say anything much about the MTR, unless it's kinda packed especially after office hour time.zzm9980 wrote:v4jr4 wrote:I heard that the buses in HK are not that "friendly", and the MTR can be packed as well. Still, as long as it's safer than Jakarta, I'll say yes.nutnut wrote:I would be interested in hearing about the commute to and from the city from the areas you lived. Are you happy to say where you lived in regards to the location and how long your commute was by MTR/car/bus?
Funny, I keep reading all these articles in the local birdcage liner about how Singapore is trying to make their system more like HK because it's seen as superior. Honestly I only ride MTR and Airport Express though, never the busses.
I've taken MTR at various times and have never been 'sardine packed' like I have on MRT on certain routes at certain times. I think MTR trains just have more room and run more often.v4jr4 wrote:My friends who went to HK said that buses are pretty "wild", while they didn't say anything much about the MTR, unless it's kinda packed especially after office hour time.zzm9980 wrote:v4jr4 wrote: I heard that the buses in HK are not that "friendly", and the MTR can be packed as well. Still, as long as it's safer than Jakarta, I'll say yes.
Funny, I keep reading all these articles in the local birdcage liner about how Singapore is trying to make their system more like HK because it's seen as superior. Honestly I only ride MTR and Airport Express though, never the busses.
Yes slightly different from how we would look at it, to be honest, where we live is going to be more based on where we can get the kids to school, then I can commute rather than the kids. I would be working near Central, DB was a consideration, but, I believe both schools there are packed to the gunnels... Sai Kung was an option, just not sure of what a daily commute to the office would be like with no MTR at all out there until 2016 I think (they are extending) New Territories seems cleaner and less built up, Just trying to see what's viable without actually looking hardcore at the moment.ScoobyDoes wrote:For me it was a little different.......living and working in the New Territories.nutnut wrote:I would be interested in hearing about the commute to and from the city from the areas you lived. Are you happy to say where you lived in regards to the location and how long your commute was by MTR/car/bus?
Initially I was living and working in Kowloon and just spent 15-20min walking to work. Once I changed company we were out in the New Territories so it was a great chance to live out there too, and even by car I was about 15min away from the office. The bus would take 30-45min though since it couldn't take the bypasses.
If I needed to get into the heart of Kowloon/TST on public transport I suppose it would be about 45-60min away, which for me is fine.
There are thousands of expats living out on the islands and taking the ferry to Central every day so whilst I've not done it, the benefits must outweigh the disadvantages.
Not sure many/any expats look 35yrs down the road like that, so that was just as irrelevent by itself.BillyB wrote:Look into the future and HK will be economically irrelevant; contributing less than 1% to overall China GDP. Plus, it will lose its SAR status and fall back under China control in 2047 - that's very off-putting for many expats.
See my commuting time for referenceSai Kung was an option, just not sure of what a daily commute to the office would be like with no MTR at all out there until 2016.
v4jr4 wrote:I heard that the buses in HK are not that "friendly", and the MTR can be packed as well. Still, as long as it's safer than Jakarta, I'll say yes.
Hard to say. In short, although there are some slight improvements, generally, I can't say Jakarta has MRT. This picture can describe better:Brah wrote:Not to sidetrack this thread, but what about the MRT in Jakarta? Or was that Jakarta in general?
Thanks for starting this thread BTW as I'm getting ready to start telling headhunters to find me a role there.
Just hope they include relo from SG as part of a non-expat deal.
v4jr4 wrote:I heard that the buses in HK are not that "friendly", and the MTR can be packed as well. Still, as long as it's safer than Jakarta, I'll say yes.
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