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Postby offshoreoildude » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 9:17 am

baboonz wrote:Exploit immigration rules? All i am trying to find out is whether such the 4 years old rule exists and not be critized about my actions. The reason I brought it up in this forum is that the 4 years old rule thing cannot be found anywhere. I have browse through the entire ICA website and there was no mention about it. I meant no harm and I have no intention to exploit or critize the immigration rules. I would really appreciate if all of you stop thinking negatively.

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It's possible that the 4yo rule is an internal one that kicks in at the whim of the revelant department or when a certain statistical point is reached.
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Postby v4jr4 » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 9:52 am

baboonz wrote:Strong eagle,

My nieces are already in SG studying and both parents are neither citizen, PR, nor any pass holder.

Of course I have to gain a legal status in SG while my son is studying there. Nobody wants to be caught and fined for illegally overstaying. Besides, the LTVP is not for forever. It only lasts for the time your kid is in school. After that, it's done.

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And your nieces were only 3+ y.o. when they applied as well?

Side note: you may think that it's common in your country for a 3+years little kid to enroll in nursery (I know someone who complained with such words), but it doesn't really apply to anyone anywhere anytime. If the nursery states that student pass will be given to 4 y.o. kid, so be it. Besides, what's the hurry? :P
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:15 am

What she is doing is absolutely legal and has been in place for many years already. She is what is know as an peidu mama.

Peidu mamas (陪读妈妈), or study mamas are women who accompany their children to Singapore to receive primary and secondary-level education. The study mama phenomenon began in 2000, after the Singapore Government relaxed its immigration policies to attract more foreigners. Most of the study mamas are from mainland China.


Private Schools eligibility for Student Passes (Kindergarten):

http://www.cpe.gov.sg/cos/o.x?c=/cpe/pe ... ndergarten

It would appear Pre-Kindergarten is as early as one can register. So, while there may not be a written published "rule" on the website, the fact that there are not any approved Nursery would preclude the necessity of having a minimum age rule in the first place.

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/preschool/faq/

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Postby v4jr4 » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:40 am

Children who are 3 years of age on 1 January of the year of admission can be enrolled in the nursery class in the kindergarten.


So, either the nursery has no more place, or they make their own rules since OP stated this:
baboonz wrote:According to ICA, they don't give out student pass for students who are not yet 4 years old.


Is it something that OP can use to check with ICA directly?
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Postby baboonz » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:45 am

Sundaymorningstaple,

Thank you for the info. I called ICA this morning and the lady said i can try to do an appeal. I will fly in to talk to the officer personally to make the appeal.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:53 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:What she is doing is absolutely legal and has been in place for many years already.


I think we all know it was legal.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 1:06 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:What she is doing is absolutely legal and has been in place for many years already.


I think we all know it was legal.


Well, for the rest mainly, cause the first 8 posted replies were dissing her.

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Postby Mi Amigo » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 2:21 pm

Not wishing to 'diss' the OP or anyone else, but I am confused by the apparent attitude that there is an automatic entitlement for a child from any country to be able to come here, become enrolled in a school / kindergarten, and then for the child and mother to be automatically granted the right to live here. I understand that this does happen, as SMS has explained, but surely (as with all things of this nature), it is at the discretion of the authorities, not an automatic right?

Or am I missing something?

Edit: I just re-read the OP's first post and see that the child was born in Singapore, so is that what makes the difference and leads to the expectation of a pass being granted?
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 3:29 pm

Yeah, everything the government does has a backdoor where the government can backpedal and reject if they feel like it. There is absolutely NOTHING here that is an "entitlement". It's all at the discretion of the powers that be. That's why almost all departments here have channels for appeal. Sometimes it weeds out the opportunists by doing it that way.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 3:30 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:Edit: I just re-read the OP's first post and see that the child was born in Singapore, so is that what makes the difference and leads to the expectation of a pass being granted?


I'd assume that matters very little, as Singapore does not grant citizenship jus soli.

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 3:33 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote:Edit: I just re-read the OP's first post and see that the child was born in Singapore, so is that what makes the difference and leads to the expectation of a pass being granted?


I'd assume that matters very little, as Singapore does not grant citizenship jus soli.


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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 3:35 pm

Sure wish the US didn't! :mad:

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Postby scarbowl » Wed, 24 Oct 2012 9:48 pm

baboonz wrote:Exploit immigration rules? All i am trying to find out is whether such the 4 years old rule exists and not be critized about my actions. The reason I brought it up in this forum is that the 4 years old rule thing cannot be found anywhere. I have browse through the entire ICA website and there was no mention about it. I meant no harm and I have no intention to exploit or critize the immigration rules. I would really appreciate if all of you stop thinking negatively.

Thanks!
The student pass applies at age 6. Earlier than that is not possible. I think the other posters are correct, though, in wondering about your motives. How will you support yourself, why is it so important to be in Singapore at this age, etc. It does sound suspicious. You might consider getting a job, having your S/P pass sponsored, and then enroling your child.

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Re: Student Pass for Kindergarten was rejected

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