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EP Working Part Time - Seems Possible

Post by Shadowhawk » Fri, 19 Oct 2012 9:26 am

As mentioned in a recent post, I'll be starting work on a new EP in the coming year. Currently, I'm working as a researcher and they've asked me to stay on as an adjunct researcher after I join my new company.

I've read a lot of forum posts that say this is not possible, illegal, and can get me kicked out of the country. However, my current department head says that it is no problem as long as my new company writes a letter of no objection and my current company writes a letter requesting part-time employment on my behalf and both letters are sent to MOM.

I was a little skeptical so I got on the phone and called MOM. After a little persistance, they confirmed that what my department head said is correct, and that MOM will review my case once they receive these two letters.

In all my research into this matter, people have steadfastly maintained that this is impossible and there has been no mention of writing letters and seeking MOM approval. Is it because those who have tried this route have been consistently denied? Has anyone heard of MOM suggesting this kind of procedure?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 19 Oct 2012 9:38 am

Frankly, no I haven't. Let us know if it is, in fact, true once you have two work permits in hand at the same time OR two employers shown on a single Employment Pass. Or a letter of confirmation from MOM approving part time work while on another company's EP.

Interesting, to say the least, especially in view of the current pogrom against foreigners working here. :-k
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Post by x9200 » Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:23 am

I know at least two cases of such shared appointments where somebody was employed in one researched institute and worked also in NTU or NUS. I even know one case with some triple employers sharing. All these people are foreigners, non-PR. I will ask them when I have opportunity and still remember at that time.

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Post by Shadowhawk » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 6:12 pm

Well, after a long wait, I can confirm that this arrangement is in fact possible.

Things unfolded pretty much as I described in the original post. The company I have an EP with provided a letter of non-objection to the additional employment, which I submitted to the second company along with my acceptance package. What I presume happened then was the second company submitted my acceptance package with the letter of non-objection to MOM and approximately 3 week later, MOM sent the second company a "Letter of Consent for Employment Pass Holder to Take Up Additional Employment in Singapore."

The letter states that I am granted permission to take up the additional employment (specifying the position and second company), this permission is contingent on my EP, and that I must apply for permission again when I renew my EP.

Pretty simple from my perspective, and most of the lag time was due to paper shuffling in the second company rather than waiting on the government.

Anyways, hope this tidbit is helpful!

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Post by the lynx » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 9:54 pm

Shadowhawk wrote:Well, after a long wait, I can confirm that this arrangement is in fact possible.

Things unfolded pretty much as I described in the original post. The company I have an EP with provided a letter of non-objection to the additional employment, which I submitted to the second company along with my acceptance package. What I presume happened then was the second company submitted my acceptance package with the letter of non-objection to MOM and approximately 3 week later, MOM sent the second company a "Letter of Consent for Employment Pass Holder to Take Up Additional Employment in Singapore."

The letter states that I am granted permission to take up the additional employment (specifying the position and second company), this permission is contingent on my EP, and that I must apply for permission again when I renew my EP.

Pretty simple from my perspective, and most of the lag time was due to paper shuffling in the second company rather than waiting on the government.

Anyways, hope this tidbit is helpful!
Ah that is an interesting update. Thanks for updating us about this matter. Seems like for matters related to research, as long as the procedures are done correctly, it is possible. This will be helpful as reference for those in your position.

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Post by morenangpinay » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:09 am

would the 2nd company need to fulfill any quota for local vs. foreigner?and would this option be applicable to writers ?

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Post by rajagainstthemachine » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:42 am

On a related note, what if one had an EP and then started a band in Singapore and started playing in a club/pub and derived income from it , would that be legal or illegal?
would that amount be taxable/non taxable?

is there any prior permission to be obtained beforehand?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:37 pm

Don't believe that one would fly. The Research/Academic elements make sense but a second job totally unrelated to the primary job scope will be a bit OTT I'd think. And yes, if you are in a band and are getting paid for it, it would need to be approved by MOM and proper permits obtained. (Entertainers have a pass of their own.

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx
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Post by rajagainstthemachine » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 1:30 pm

^
Thanks for clarifying that, there goes my dream of starting a metal band :cry:

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