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Help For a Maid

Post by Strong Eagle » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 5:47 pm

Last Friday, the maid next door approached us as we were getting ready to go out to eat. "Help me, please," she said. "I cannot stay here any more or my heart will die."

She has been employed with the next door neighbor for 5 days. The next day she passed my wife a note through the fence detailing the verbal abuse and almost constant criticism she is receiving from the old man that lives there.

She's the third maid they've had in two years. The last one lasted six months before giving it all up. All the maids have told my wife that the man is extremely verbally abusive and critical, using them as a verbal punching bag (but no physical or sexual abuse).

None of these maids ever had a day off, ever... and this new one has not even been allowed out to walk the dog because the man doesn't want her talking to the other maids.

The gahmen is a joke. If you've had FIVE maids in one year, you must watch a video, SIX and you must go in for an interview... that's it.

Apparently, it is the same agency that placed all these maids (attempting to verify) so they know damn good and well about how bad the man is.

Options? Approaches? Recourse? Seems very limited at this point, and since we've been dragged into it, would like to try and do something.

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Post by offshoreoildude » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 6:42 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:Last Friday, the maid next door approached us as we were getting ready to go out to eat. "Help me, please," she said. "I cannot stay here any more or my heart will die."

She has been employed with the next door neighbor for 5 days. The next day she passed my wife a note through the fence detailing the verbal abuse and almost constant criticism she is receiving from the old man that lives there.

She's the third maid they've had in two years. The last one lasted six months before giving it all up. All the maids have told my wife that the man is extremely verbally abusive and critical, using them as a verbal punching bag (but no physical or sexual abuse).

None of these maids ever had a day off, ever... and this new one has not even been allowed out to walk the dog because the man doesn't want her talking to the other maids.

The gahmen is a joke. If you've had FIVE maids in one year, you must watch a video, SIX and you must go in for an interview... that's it.

Apparently, it is the same agency that placed all these maids (attempting to verify) so they know damn good and well about how bad the man is.

Options? Approaches? Recourse? Seems very limited at this point, and since we've been dragged into it, would like to try and do something.

TIA
Report the incident to her embassy - preferably with her permission and PP number. The various embassies seem to have picked up their game may help. There is also an association on Rangoon Rd that might be interested - bugger if I can remember the name - I'll drive past tomorrow and check.
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Post by ecureilx » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 6:50 pm

offshoreoildude wrote: Report the incident to her embassy - preferably with her permission and PP number. The various embassies seem to have picked up their game may help. There is also an association on Rangoon Rd that might be interested - bugger if I can remember the name - I'll drive past tomorrow and check.
Refer to Home or TWC2 ...

http://home.org.sg/services/helpdesks.html

Or

http://twc2.org.sg/

Either one can help ..

SE: let me PM you a contact in a while ..

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Post by Zeenit » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 6:53 pm

You cant call Home on someone elses behalf. They need to call. I know its stupid.
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Post by ecureilx » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 6:55 pm

Zeenit wrote:You cant call Home on someone elses behalf. They need to call. I know its stupid.
I passed a number to SE, who can assist and advice ..

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Post by hapa-girl » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 9:20 pm

MOM have a section on their website for reporting suspected abuse of a FDW. I heard they take accusations of abuse seriously.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:21 pm

hapa-girl wrote:MOM have a section on their website for reporting suspected abuse of a FDW. I heard they take accusations of abuse seriously.
I'm sorry but... HA HA HA HA HA! The MOM is useless for maid abuse enforcement. As I said earlier, an "owner" of a maid in Singapore must have hired FIVE maids in ONE year in order to be required to WATCH a video about maid treatment, and SIX maids in one year to actually be called in for an interview... which is a bullshit interview in itself from other posts I can no longer find.

No... MOM doesn't actually care about the actual plight of its foreign workers... it is eyewash and lip service. C'mon... think about it... the new law requiring the maid "owners" give them a day off each week is not retroactive... only new contracts post January, 2013... so the "owners" can get used to the idea... I mean... how much bullshit is that?

Foreign workers can be piled into the back of a lorry like so many sheep, along with 14 anvils and 16 large plate glass windows and nobody cares... but be sure your Singaporean little one is in a car seat. FW are pissed upon by the average Singapore citizenry... or they are invisible and don't exist at all.

A maid falls out of a window hanging laundry, or is punched senseless by a worthless maid "owner" and there is much hand ringing after the paper that makes great bird cage liner writes a story... then NOTHING happens.

There are two parts to this equation. First, you pay your foreign workers next to nothing, you get the kind of populist rebellion that the gahmen has on their hands. And second, you treat them like shit, and it shows that there is really nothing more than a thin veneer of egalitarian bullshit over a far too large population of venal, bigoted, and classist Singaporeans who think that Tamil road workers and Filipina maids are not only second class citizens but second class humans as well.

Truly, one of the most appalling aspects of Singapore. A filthy rich country that treats its least able and poorest in such a shabby manner. And MOM is complicit in this. MOM should be the advocate for workers, not the mouthpiece for those who want to retain cheap labor unfettered by labor laws that might require that FW's be treated fairly.

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Post by JR8 » Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:42 pm

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Post by durian123 » Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:55 am

HOME seem to be pretty switched on, but something else that seems to have been working recently is posting on the MOM facebook page. Of course then you're seriously exposing yourself (possibly one reason the MOM have a facebook page in the first place).

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Post by Steve1960 » Tue, 16 Oct 2012 1:37 pm

Maybe the best option for assisting the girl is to help her change employer.

Doesn't solve the ongoing abuse from the employer though and he will almost certainly strike again :-(

I am looking for a FDW to start December 1. PM me her name / the agency details and I will certainly request an interview with her.

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Post by ecureilx » Tue, 16 Oct 2012 1:42 pm

Steve1960 wrote: Doesn't solve the ongoing abuse from the employer though and he will almost certainly strike again :-(
I said it before, it is pretty easy to blacklist a maid, than to blacklist an abusive employer ..

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Post by movingtospore » Tue, 16 Oct 2012 4:35 pm

Our neighbour's maid had a similar complaint. In our case, our maid helped her out. I think the result of it was that she got sent back home.

Totally agree with Strong Eagle's assessment of SP - but - I think MOM does step in when it seems they could be embarrassed by not stepping in. Especially if you get her embassy on side.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Tue, 16 Oct 2012 5:39 pm

Zeenit wrote:You cant call Home on someone elses behalf. They need to call. I know its stupid.
We talked to them... not much they can do, even if she did show up... which she can't since they don't let her out... but it would need to be evidence of physical abuse.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Tue, 16 Oct 2012 5:40 pm

durian123 wrote:HOME seem to be pretty switched on, but something else that seems to have been working recently is posting on the MOM facebook page. Of course then you're seriously exposing yourself (possibly one reason the MOM have a facebook page in the first place).
Yes, this is really not a good idea. Defamation laws being what they are in Singapore, you could have a lot of expense on your hands trying to prove up what you wrote/said.

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Post by offshoreoildude » Thu, 18 Oct 2012 7:46 pm

Get her pregnant, she'll be sent home. You'll have to do all her successors as well!

I find it appalling that the maid levy effectively taxes Maids at over 50%!!
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