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Job-Hunting? Recruiters delete email without reading?

Postby cw1483 » Thu, 11 Oct 2012 2:04 pm

Hi Folks,

I've only been in Singapore for over a month so not sure how everyone else's job-hunting has been. My spouse and I moved here because I got a job offer several months ago, but spouse is still job-hunting....and has been so for months before we arrived.

For email, we use Outlook and set the option to receive read notification feature. In a few occasions, the job posting noted the recruiter name and email, so my spouse emailed CV and cover letter. Only in Singapore, has my spouse been receiving the notifications that "item was deleted unread".

At first we thought maybe position was filled, so they don't need more resumes and delete. Then item re-post and the same thing happens via another recruiter.

Has this happened to anyone else? I wonder why recruiters would post jobs and not even bother to open the attachment (especially when the job listing noted to email them directly). Do you think they see a foreigner name and by default wouldn't waste time to read it? That's about the only thing I could think of. The posting didn't indicate for Singaporeans or PR only, so am really baffled. Do recruiters need to look busy and post some jobs out there that do not exist?

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you for reading.

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Re: Job-Hunting? Recruiters delete email without reading?

Postby ecureilx » Thu, 11 Oct 2012 2:22 pm

cw1483 wrote:For email, we use Outlook and set the option to receive read notification feature. In a few occasions, the job posting noted the recruiter name and email, so my spouse emailed CV and cover letter. Only in Singapore, has my spouse be


Oh, you don't know the outlook-read-receipt feature is 90% failure prone ?

Most Email Gateways are set to ignore this, or trigger a false read - if the sender can be validated ..

In any case, my 2 cents ? this has been discussed here before ..

Most recruiters look for 'perfect fit' - so when they need a Windows 2003 Server support person, for example, and my resume says that I am very proficient in Exchange 2003/Windows 2008, about 7 out of 10 times, I bet the recruiter will extrapolate that to mean I am super proficient in Windows 2003 or in theory atleast, I must know my Windows 2003 ..

Only the 3 or so out of 10 will figure it out ..

or example, if the requirement from the customer says CCNA, CCNP - most recruiters will not figure out that you need CCNA Completed to go to CCNP, and if my resume doesn't specifically state that I completed CCNA, it is gonna end in deleted folder.

Makes sense ?

Now, for the final clue - some of the resumes in agencies are now parsed by application, so you miss the key word, you get dumped.

Harsh but true

Stick to large / reputed recruiters

and follow the example advised by a member here, Yankstuckinsuisse .. and you can improve your hit rates.

Oh, about the foreigner thingy, was talking to my friends in recruitment, and they did say that client are asking for PR/SC, whereever possible, especially considering the current market moods of EP/SP rejections ..

Over and out ..

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Postby offshoreoildude » Thu, 11 Oct 2012 3:53 pm

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Re: Job-Hunting? Recruiters delete email without reading?

Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 11 Oct 2012 7:30 pm

ecureilx wrote:
cw1483 wrote:For email, we use Outlook and set the option to receive read notification feature. In a few occasions, the job posting noted the recruiter name and email, so my spouse emailed CV and cover letter. Only in Singapore, has my spouse be


Oh, you don't know the outlook-read-receipt feature is 90% failure prone ?

Most Email Gateways are set to ignore this, or trigger a false read - if the sender can be validated ..


Even worse for OP, is when the mail client prompts the reader on how they'd like to handle the read-receipt request. I would personally deny sending it, and then trash the resume.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 11 Oct 2012 8:00 pm

Well, for me, if the covering email specifies the field/speciality and it doesn't jive with my well defined areas of expertise, I just trash them as well as I figure anybody who goes through my site and then sends me a CV for the Financial District isn't someone I want cluttering up my database.

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Postby cw1483 » Fri, 12 Oct 2012 9:11 am

Hi ecureilx,
I didn't know about the 90% failure rate. As most either do not come back with delivery confirmation (as most yahoo, gmail accounts do not allow it), or it does with confirmation received, or read, only a handful comes back delete unread which I thought were accurate.

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Postby cw1483 » Fri, 12 Oct 2012 9:13 am

Hi SMS,
Yeah, I don't mind if they read and delete. I suspect that if they have more viable candidates. (Just wondering if it was even read since Outlook said delete unread).

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 12 Oct 2012 9:15 am

cw1483 wrote:Hi ecureilx,
I didn't know about the 90% failure rate. As most either do not come back with delivery confirmation (as most yahoo, gmail accounts do not allow it), or it does with confirmation received, or read, only a handful comes back delete unread which I thought were accurate.


Despite Microsoft claiming otherwise, it is not even close to fairly accurate ..

A lot of mail firewalls are set to fake the replies, as that is a form of creating a defensive shield

Not gonna go into details, but .. don't trust the read-receipt accuracy

In an ideal world, where you use an Outlook Client and the remote side is directly connected to an Exchange 2010, then the accuracy is high, even though the remote client too can delete and say otherwise, or opposite
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Postby offshoreoildude » Fri, 12 Oct 2012 9:15 am

cw1483 wrote:Hi SMS,
Yeah, I don't mind if they read and delete. I suspect that if they have more viable candidates. (Just wondering if it was even read since Outlook said delete unread).


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