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Postby x9200 » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 9:41 am

Regardless his English skills, don't you find a bit odd the idea of some stranger going to MOM and asking questions on his behalf or even just as a side topic? Apparently he thought this would be the case. Talent? This is more about common sense.

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Postby revhappy » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 9:53 am

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Postby v4jr4 » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:07 am

Fair enough. But here's that little spark:

Anyways, If anyone of you can actually check up with the officers that would be great. Please keep me and others who are sailing in the same boat informed.


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Postby x9200 » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:16 am

Sorry revhappy but if one takes the story as a whole and not just the ending sentence of what he wrote (leaving aside it was AFTER he was criticized) it really appears differently. Even within the paragraph you took your quote from what he wrote only adds to the depth of the hole:

well i wrote with reference to this reply where the gentleman said that he would try and arrange a meeting with officer. So I thought someone is already checking up for this info. I know it has to be me to check the information and talk to the officers which I am already doing. I was just referring if anyone has a same case like me and what steps are they taking.


How could he assume someone was checking for the case identical to his? He said elsewhere about response he got from MOM:
they told me its case to case basis

unless he does not understand that it also mean his and her wife profiles, age, country of origin, education ... should I go further? And then you also have the part quoted by v4jr4.
Unfortunately whatever approach is taken it still seems to boil down to the common sense issues.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:41 am

x9200 wrote:unless he does not understand that it also mean his and her wife profiles, age, country of origin, education ... should I go further? And then you also have the part quoted by v4jr4.
Unfortunately whatever approach is taken it still seems to boil down to the common sense issues.


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Postby x9200 » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:21 pm

I am extremely easy. I am just justifying my case.

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Postby JayCee » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 9:13 pm

revhappy wrote:Wait a minute! Granted that his English is not the best, that has nothing to do with his talent.

In India, we use very simple English and terms like "I would arrange a meeting with an officer" isnt as widely as used there to mean anything other than its literal meaning.

As an S Pass holder with probably a blue collar job, his English is already good enough for the job he is performing.

As it is English is a Freakin' crazy language totally different from any other language in the world where you say something and mean something else and you spell something and read something else. Have you English speaking guys ever even tried uttering a word in any other language? When you have never ever spoken anything other that what your mom taught you, you are obviously experts of that language. As Indians many of us can speak atleast 4 languages and some even more.

The level of English competency we have is good enough for this country or anywhere else.


So because you may speak 4 languages, that means Indian English is perfect and beyond reproach? In case you hadn't noticed, you're not in India now, and when dealing with non-Indians you have to understand that we're not using the Indian terms that you use because we're not Indian, the use of standard English would make more sense considering the mixture of nationalities involved.

I see this all the time at work, and have seen it in previous companies I have worked in too. In IT in banking nowadays (which I know you are familiar with as you never miss an opportunity to mention how you work at a reknowned IB or share your in-depth knowledge of the subject) there are over 50% Indians in Singapore, and I've lost count of the amount of times people in the UK, US, Oz or Europe have not understood what the Indian worker is trying to say either vocally or on email because of the idiosyncracies associated with Indian English. This usually tends to mean things taking longer to clarify and get done.
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Postby revhappy » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 9:43 pm

Coming back to question of whether the Indian IT guys working in Singapore are talent or not? My stance remains that the expectation out of them is to deliver code and to that extent they are talent enough to be here.
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Postby v4jr4 » Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:34 am

revhappy wrote:Coming back to question of whether the Indian IT guys working in Singapore are talent or not? My stance remains that the expectation out of them is to deliver code and to that extent they are talent enough to be here.


I don't think the talented guys are limited to a certain race. So far, I've encountered "masters" from at least 3 countries. I have to admit that I need an extra effort to tackle "broken English". But because of this, sometimes the pressure can raise since the communication can't be built.
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Postby the lynx » Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47 am

v4jr4 wrote:
revhappy wrote:Coming back to question of whether the Indian IT guys working in Singapore are talent or not? My stance remains that the expectation out of them is to deliver code and to that extent they are talent enough to be here.


I don't think the talented guys are limited to a certain race. So far, I've encountered "masters" from at least 3 countries. I have to admit that I need an extra effort to tackle "broken English". But because of this, sometimes the pressure can raise since the communication can't be built.


Agreed. 'Limitations' do occur across the globe, although I must say that for some funny reasons, certain patterns seem to be more consistent in particular groups.

Still, acceptable communication skills are always better to have, regardless of whichever groups you belong to.

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Postby v4jr4 » Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:11 am

The strange thing is, whenever someone says "masters" in this forum, a certain race is to be pointed out.
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Postby the lynx » Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:18 am

v4jr4 wrote:The strange thing is, whenever someone says "masters" in this forum, a certain race is to be pointed out.


Actually it is an inside joke, go and look for it in Jokes & Rubbish section. :cool: :twisted:

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Postby anbu_th » Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:16 am

What happened prad? have u applied for PR? your house hold income is good enough to demonstrate that you are eligible for PR. As you said it is again case by case. How long you guys been here and nature of your jobs.. weather it is permanent or temporary.. and etc.. etc.. I believe the time is the major factor.. If you guys would have applied three yrs back your chances are high... but still you have the chances as the country is looking for families which can produce more babies (not a joke)[/b]

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:31 am

anbu_th wrote:What happened prad? have u applied for PR? your house hold income is good enough to demonstrate that you are eligible for PR. As you said it is again case by case. How long you guys been here and nature of your jobs.. weather it is permanent or temporary.. and etc.. etc.. I believe the time is the major factor.. If you guys would have applied three yrs back your chances are high... but still you have the chances as the country is looking for families which can produce more babies (not a joke)[/b]


Did you even read the others' comments? All caveats have been pointed out already. It's not as simple as ticking items off a checklist.

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Re: Hi

Postby anbu_th » Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:42 am

nakatago wrote:
anbu_th wrote:What happened prad? have u applied for PR? your house hold income is good enough to demonstrate that you are eligible for PR. As you said it is again case by case. How long you guys been here and nature of your jobs.. weather it is permanent or temporary.. and etc.. etc.. I believe the time is the major factor.. If you guys would have applied three yrs back your chances are high... but still you have the chances as the country is looking for families which can produce more babies (not a joke)[/b]


Did you even read the others' comments? All caveats have been pointed out already. It's not as simple as ticking items off a checklist.


Have read, I just want to know the progress... inbetween I've found that lot of people are discussing out of the topic... anyway good to see u r response.


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