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What's wrong with American English? At least we pronounce the words as they are spelled.
And why not Ozzies or Kiwis? To the untrained ear, they all sound British.
And mate, do they need to be exclusively from the English part of UK? What about the Scotch? The Irish? The Liverpudlians... all far different forms of pronunciation and accent.
And why don't 50 year old's qualify? All the ones I've met, even the British, still seem to be able to speak.
Sounds like a load of rubbish.
And why not Ozzies or Kiwis? To the untrained ear, they all sound British.
And mate, do they need to be exclusively from the English part of UK? What about the Scotch? The Irish? The Liverpudlians... all far different forms of pronunciation and accent.
And why don't 50 year old's qualify? All the ones I've met, even the British, still seem to be able to speak.
Sounds like a load of rubbish.
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To be fair, OP is doing a thesis and he is just setting a set of parameters, which is a normal practice in research and study, because after all, the sky is the limit and one has to define the parameters to work within.Strong Eagle wrote:What's wrong with American English? At least we pronounce the words as they are spelled.
And why not Ozzies or Kiwis? To the untrained ear, they all sound British.
And mate, do they need to be exclusively from the English part of UK? What about the Scotch? The Irish? The Liverpudlians... all far different forms of pronunciation and accent.
And why don't 50 year old's qualify? All the ones I've met, even the British, still seem to be able to speak.
Sounds like a load of rubbish.
But I still have to agree that scope is pretty narrow but this is set by OP/OP's thesis supervisor and there is nothing you and I can do to change it. I'm no linguist expert, but this work will have a little bit of hard time convincing others as a credible or reliable source of reference in this field.
Singapore English is after all, derived (not sure if it is the right word) from British English, thanks to the history of being a British colony. Not saying that American English, Canadian English, Australian English is inferior but I guess it makes sense that OP is looking at British English.
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Which explains why so many that come out of university don't know any more than when they first went in.the lynx wrote:To be fair, OP is doing a thesis and he is just setting a set of parameters, which is a normal practice in research and study, because after all, the sky is the limit and one has to define the parameters to work within.Strong Eagle wrote:What's wrong with American English? At least we pronounce the words as they are spelled.
And why not Ozzies or Kiwis? To the untrained ear, they all sound British.
And mate, do they need to be exclusively from the English part of UK? What about the Scotch? The Irish? The Liverpudlians... all far different forms of pronunciation and accent.
And why don't 50 year old's qualify? All the ones I've met, even the British, still seem to be able to speak.
Sounds like a load of rubbish.
But I still have to agree that scope is pretty narrow but this is set by OP/OP's thesis supervisor and there is nothing you and I can do to change it. I'm no linguist expert, but this work will have a little bit of hard time convincing others as a credible or reliable source of reference in this field.
Singapore English is after all, derived (not sure if it is the right word) from British English, thanks to the history of being a British colony. Not saying that American English, Canadian English, Australian English is inferior but I guess it makes sense that OP is looking at British English.
Flawed input into a flawed study yields garbage out. And, everyone pretends that something useful is going to come out of this nonsense.
Theodore Sturgeon said, "90 percent of everything is crap", and this applies to academic studies, in spades.
Show me why it has to be British English when there are English speakers of every stripe in Singapore... hello... this is the modern world. Show me why the age cutoff is 45.
I bet the OP has no idea why either of these conditions exists... she/he will just blindly move forward to complete the assignment without ever asking the questions that really need to be asked... like... "How stupid is this survey?"
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Dear all, thanks for your interest.Strong Eagle wrote:Which explains why so many that come out of university don't know any more than when they first went in.the lynx wrote:To be fair, OP is doing a thesis and he is just setting a set of parameters, which is a normal practice in research and study, because after all, the sky is the limit and one has to define the parameters to work within.Strong Eagle wrote:What's wrong with American English? At least we pronounce the words as they are spelled.
And why not Ozzies or Kiwis? To the untrained ear, they all sound British.
And mate, do they need to be exclusively from the English part of UK? What about the Scotch? The Irish? The Liverpudlians... all far different forms of pronunciation and accent.
And why don't 50 year old's qualify? All the ones I've met, even the British, still seem to be able to speak.
Sounds like a load of rubbish.
But I still have to agree that scope is pretty narrow but this is set by OP/OP's thesis supervisor and there is nothing you and I can do to change it. I'm no linguist expert, but this work will have a little bit of hard time convincing others as a credible or reliable source of reference in this field.
Singapore English is after all, derived (not sure if it is the right word) from British English, thanks to the history of being a British colony. Not saying that American English, Canadian English, Australian English is inferior but I guess it makes sense that OP is looking at British English.
Flawed input into a flawed study yields garbage out. And, everyone pretends that something useful is going to come out of this nonsense.
Theodore Sturgeon said, "90 percent of everything is crap", and this applies to academic studies, in spades.
Show me why it has to be British English when there are English speakers of every stripe in Singapore... hello... this is the modern world. Show me why the age cutoff is 45.
I bet the OP has no idea why either of these conditions exists... she/he will just blindly move forward to complete the assignment without ever asking the questions that really need to be asked... like... "How stupid is this survey?"
Certain experimental requirements/ perimeters have to be put in place to meet certain specific objectives of the study (as pointed out by the lynx). Age group and nationality are some of the factors, among others, that are controlled in this study. It has been shown that age can influence how people perceive languages. In addition, I am narrowing it by nationality due to the study's requirement.
I am not implying that there are anything 'wrong' with other types of English, nor the way English is spoken by other nationalities. Any misunderstanding is deeply regretted.
Thank you all once again for taking the time to pen down your thoughts. I appreciate it.
I wish all of you a pleasant week ahead and the very best in all your endeavors!
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A sampling of 1, and a "nutnut" at that. By the way, how are you controlling to ensure that it is really only the British taking your survey and that they are between 18 and 45?Linguistics wrote:Dear nutnut, thank you very much! Most appreciated. Have a good day!nutnut wrote:I've completed your Survey, happy to be of service!
when had to do a study for a paper in university, i offered coffee or grocery store vouchers to respondents. tacked them up on notice boards all over campus and i had more people than i needed.
they gave me their information too, so i know they were legit.
i'm not sure if you'll get the accurate numbers you need by posting on internet forums...
just sayin.
they gave me their information too, so i know they were legit.
i'm not sure if you'll get the accurate numbers you need by posting on internet forums...
just sayin.
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Trust me, these days, students seem to forget the courtesy of rewarding the participants for their time. Budget constraints, etc... whatever.taxico wrote:when had to do a study for a paper in university, i offered coffee or grocery store vouchers to respondents. tacked them up on notice boards all over campus and i had more people than i needed.
they gave me their information too, so i know they were legit.
i'm not sure if you'll get the accurate numbers you need by posting on internet forums...
just sayin.
I still remember when I was volunteering to conduct survey interviews (for some cause I was championing) on university students back when I was studying, I offered simple henna artwork on-the-spot on participants as a form of thank-you (and also for publicity purposes).
I'd say that one should be creative in rewarding survey participants.
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