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Post by x9200 » Mon, 17 Sep 2012 9:38 pm

OSOD, perhaps your bad experience with the police is not that universal?

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Post by nutnut » Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:02 pm

Thing is, the question isn't why the OP did or didn't press charges, he has valid concerns about getting his cash back. everyone is straying off topic! maybe he was concerned around his kids safety if he pressed charges as he states above.
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Post by x9200 » Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:23 pm

It is a valid question nutnut:
- if he pressed and she was charged and convicted this would help a lot to recover the money he payed on top of his contracted amount. It would be IMO a clear case where he was forced to sign something under the threat and the proof of the case was the convicting sentence. Right now it looks it is his word against her.
- if he did not pressed any charges and had no valid reason for neglecting it ... well it looks like he agreed with the new deal. I don't think the judge will be that convinced about all the threatening story if someone having the assistance of police officers just did not follow and then simply signed alteration to the TA.

The report would help too but if he had a possibility to go further but he did not it may rise some questions IMHO.

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Post by offshoreoildude » Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:55 pm

x9200 wrote:OSOD, perhaps your bad experience with the police is not that universal?
Actually it seems pretty standard from others I spoken to. There is no question in my mind that 'low crime' in Singapore is in part due to under reporting of crimes by the cops.

If you want to understand why - read some articler on the difference between seizable and non seizable offences;


Note the very important point as to why making a police report by the OP is a complete waste of time;
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The list of seizable and non-seizable offences has been in place since Singapore's laws were set after independence and has generally remained unchanged.

This list basically reflects which crimes the State deems as the more serious ones which require immediate police attention, such as murder, rape, kidnapping, robbery and theft.

For the not so serious ones such as perjury, mischief and cheating, the police have no power to arrest, or even investigate, unless a magistrate orders it.

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Post by x9200 » Tue, 18 Sep 2012 8:24 am

In a lesser calibre case the policeman voluntarily asked me whether I was going to press charges so at least my experience indicates it could be different.
I guess everywhere in the world police tries to limit their paperwork and for the charm of the statistics they are also not completely immune but if at all, I would expect them to do this for the more serious offences, not some minor domestic incidents. Surely if somebody steals your 2k bike and they had to investigate who, what and when, there would be a lot of space for excuses but in the case of the OP? They have a culprit, they have the witnesses (the policemen), and as they escorted her out of the premisses they clearly acknowledged the offence took place.

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Post by offshoreoildude » Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:13 am

x9200 wrote:In a lesser calibre case the policeman voluntarily asked me whether I was going to press charges so at least my experience indicates it could be different.
I guess everywhere in the world police tries to limit their paperwork and for the charm of the statistics they are also not completely immune but if at all, I would expect them to do this for the more serious offences, not some minor domestic incidents. Surely if somebody steals your 2k bike and they had to investigate who, what and when, there would be a lot of space for excuses but in the case of the OP? They have a culprit, they have the witnesses (the policemen), and as they escorted her out of the premisses they clearly acknowledged the offence took place.
The offenses she commited are all non seizable if the cops are not being overly zealous (cheating and mischief only)! In other words - the only way the OP can get action is by complaining to a superior officer (acting superintendent or above I believe - try find one of those in a NPP!) and convincing him to lodge a complaint to a magistrate.

I too have had the police at my apartment when an ex wife was physically trying to break in - they did bugger all.

In your case you were probably being asked if you would like the complaint escalated to a higher level who may deign themselves to file a complaint.

The SPF has really declined in my personal experience of the last 20 years - enforced early retirement and over reliance on conscripts from NS don't help. I'd say more but I don't want to be kicked out of Singapore.

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