1) Nope.kev0 wrote:Hi all,
I am currently holding dual citizenship for both Australia and SIngapore. For the past two years I have been serving NS in Singapore and now that I have completed my time, I have received a letter asking me to choose between either Singapore or Australian citizenship as dual citizenship is not allowed past the age of 21.
My dilemma is this, my immediate family is currently living in Australia, and I also plan to continue further studies at a university there. However, as I was born in Singapore, I still have many emotional and family ties remaining in Singapore, and may want to live and work here in the future. On top of that, I have served 2 years in the army and don't want it to be a waste.
Most of the letter i received from ICA is straightforward enough but the part about renouncing my Singapore citizenship is slightly confusing. It goes like this " However, if you wish to remain as a Australian citizen, you can consider renouncing Singapore citizenship voluntarily."
I want to ask,
1. If there is any possible way for me to keep BOTH my citizenship. Maybe writing a letter to ICA explaining my situation?
2. If i choose NOT to renounce Singapore citizenship 'voluntarily', is it considered a crime, will there be penalties in the future.
3. Is there a fixed deadline in which Singapore will forcefully renounce my citizenship.
Any help anyone can provide me will be appreciated
Thanks
I'm not sure, but I assume you'd renounce the Australian citizenship then apply for PR on whatever basis you'd be allowed to. Having two parents that are Australian citizens would probably do it. I assume Australia is not vindictive towards former citizens like Singapore iskev0 wrote:Thanks for the reply,
Im already an Australian citizen, I can change that to a PR?
How would i go about it?
That is not true.zzm9980 wrote:I'm not sure, but I assume you'd renounce the Australian citizenship then apply for PR on whatever basis you'd be allowed to. Having two parents that are Australian citizens would probably do it. I assume Australia is not vindictive towards former citizens like Singapore iskev0 wrote:Thanks for the reply,
Im already an Australian citizen, I can change that to a PR?
How would i go about it?
Sorry, my post wasn't clear. I was suggesting it may be possible for him to renounce his Australian citizenship, and then apply for an Australian PR (or whatever its equivalent is. I thought I disclaimed that with saying I don't know if it's possible, but I did know renoucning SC and then getting SPR would not be possible.Mad Scientist wrote:That is not true.zzm9980 wrote:I'm not sure, but I assume you'd renounce the Australian citizenship then apply for PR on whatever basis you'd be allowed to. Having two parents that are Australian citizens would probably do it. I assume Australia is not vindictive towards former citizens like Singapore iskev0 wrote:Thanks for the reply,
Im already an Australian citizen, I can change that to a PR?
How would i go about it?
Under section of the chap 93 of the Enlistment act upon serving NS you have to renounce either one of the two at the age of 21. You cannot keep both after that age.
If you failed to renounce, you will lose your SG citizenship by default
If you choose to renounce SG citizenship , you will not be able to apply SG PR but you can and allowed to stay here under SVP with caveat or look for a job under EP
If you choose not to respond and keep both it is a crime under the Constitution
Capisce?
To me it looks like you have strong bonds in Singapore, than Australia. Australia is important for you only for the university and your parents. If thats true, keep your Singapore citizenship as its more difficult to obtain and very expensive to mess with.kev0 wrote:Hi all,
I am currently holding dual citizenship for both Australia and SIngapore. For the past two years I have been serving NS in Singapore and now that I have completed my time, I have received a letter asking me to choose between either Singapore or Australian citizenship as dual citizenship is not allowed past the age of 21.
My dilemma is this, my immediate family is currently living in Australia, and I also plan to continue further studies at a university there. However, as I was born in Singapore, I still have many emotional and family ties remaining in Singapore, and may want to live and work here in the future. On top of that, I have served 2 years in the army and don't want it to be a waste.
Most of the letter i received from ICA is straightforward enough but the part about renouncing my Singapore citizenship is slightly confusing. It goes like this " However, if you wish to remain as a Australian citizen, you can consider renouncing Singapore citizenship voluntarily."
I want to ask,
1. If there is any possible way for me to keep BOTH my citizenship. Maybe writing a letter to ICA explaining my situation?
2. If i choose NOT to renounce Singapore citizenship 'voluntarily', is it considered a crime, will there be penalties in the future.
3. Is there a fixed deadline in which Singapore will forcefully renounce my citizenship.
Any help anyone can provide me will be appreciated
Thanks
having his cake and eating it would involving lying thru his teeth, keeping both passports, and having a local (australian subsidised) uni education.revhappy wrote:This way you could kind of keep the cake and eat it too
Did you read my post?sensei_ wrote:having his cake and eating it would involving lying thru his teeth, keeping both passports, and having a local (australian subsidised) uni education.revhappy wrote:This way you could kind of keep the cake and eat it too
yeah i did. but there is a better way of having the cake and eating it too (not the most legal way, but it is done very often by singaporeans who have little respect for the law). you know, just throwing thoughts out there.revhappy wrote:Did you read my post?
Didnt I make it clear? to keep Singapore Citizenship(implies give up AU citizenship). Again I have mentioned do the AU degree as a foreigner(implies give up AU citizenship) and if I implied to keep both citizenships, why would I ever bring up the AU PR thingy in the end?
This is the crux of the problem, If he renounce OZ Citizenship prior to serving NS and reclaim it back before the age of 27 then he is sweet as.zzm9980 wrote:
Sorry, my post wasn't clear. I was suggesting it may be possible for him to renounce his Australian citizenship, and then apply for an Australian PR (or whatever its equivalent is. I thought I disclaimed that with saying I don't know if it's possible, but I did know renoucning SC and then getting SPR would not be possible.
It would be naive to think that the thought didnt cross his mind. I just finished with a thread in an australian forum where a m'sian wanted to keep both citizenship too. like singapore malaysia doesnt allow for dual, and the OP in the other forum wanted to have the best of both worlds by having a subsidised degree at the australian expense, but the freedom to go back to malaysia should it be required.sundaymorningstaple wrote:sensei_
Unfortunately, we don't like to suggest ways that are illegal on this site as we would eventually lose our credibility......obliquely or otherwise.
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