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Postby nakatago » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:18 am

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nakatago wrote:* Most Filipinos value sentimentality over what's right. It's freakin' annoying, especially if they're taking advantage of the kinship bordering on abuse and exploitation.


Interesting that you mention this. My wife volunteers at aidha, teaching maids how to manage finance. She hears many stories of relatives back in the Philippines DEMANDING money from the working maid. My friend's maid didn't want to go back to visit family because all they did was pressure her for more money... even though she bought land, built a house that they are using.


Happens all the time. Their take is, being family is enough for them to be entitled for this and hence demand it. Expecting it is one thing but demanding it without even being thankful about it is so wrong.

My cousin went to Japan to work in the shipyards, risked going illegal for several years and even spending months in jail for it and his mother demanded that he give her her share. When he finally got home, he was furious with how her mother poorly handled the money and just cut off all financial ties with her.

I felt sorry for him but I also know that he's one of the most honest, kindest and street smartest guy around so I gave him a token to help him out. He's doing good now, from what I heard last. He's the type who deserves all the success that should come his way but because of parasitic family, really fell on bad times.

Unfortunately, most Filipinos aren't like my cousin.

Hmm...I should give him a ring.

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:21 am

nakatago wrote:That's why a lot of Filipinos dislike Indians--they see so much of them in them.


And I still see some Filipinos dating with Indians around Lucky Plaza (plus some "stories" that it's only a temporary date).
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Postby nakatago » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:24 am

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nakatago wrote:That's why a lot of Filipinos dislike Indians--they see so much of them in them.


And I still see some Filipinos dating with Indians around Lucky Plaza (plus some "stories" that it's only a temporary date).


* Sentimentally over a lot of things.
* These people are lonely and appreciate any affection that comes their way. They're willing to adjust their values and priorities--"I don't like his kind but since he's such a nice guy to me, I don't mind."

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:26 am

nakatago wrote:My cousin went to Japan to work in the shipyards, risked going illegal for several years and even spending months in jail for it and his mother demanded that he give her her share. When he finally got home, he was furious with how her mother poorly handled the money and just cut off all financial ties with her.


Wow. A similar story in another country. Your cousin is a rare type :)
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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:49 am

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[list]* Yes, the tribe mentality kinda gets in the way. But from what I gather, it's similar with Indians. That's why a lot of Filipinos dislike Indians--they see so much of them in them. I have seen the enemy and the enemy is us.


Well, my other half's gonna be thrilled at that .. :D :D

* "We stick together" only works if they see you as one of them. Filipinos, however, have no problems throwing another Filipino under a bus if they perceive him as different. This also happens a lot in other countries when relationships go south. That's how most Filipino illegal immigrants get caught--they stick together as fellow TNTs ("tago nang tago"--always hiding because they're illegal) until they have a disagreement and one of them tips off immigration officers.


I have counselled filipinos, and when I told them they can report their abusive employer / exploiting employer, the answer was "well, what if the MOM people close my boss company down and other filipinos loose their job .. "

Yah, you are right there ..

You forgot to add "Bahala Nah ..." and it does get on your nerves, like when a colleague couldn't find a replacement job, when her employer went bust, she decided to pack her bags and go back, leaving all her credit cards, phone bills and all hanging, and she was broke .. pretty broke .. simply because "bahala nah .. " and she went "maybe I am not lucky to work in Singapore .. "

2 years later, her father is still covering her living expenses back home .. and she still refuses to even look for a job here .. even with her failed job seeking ventures in Middle-East and Korea ..


many years ago, when I was in Manila, a lot of people were very keen to know 'Indians', of course, due to the 5 - 6 thingy, they assume most if not all Indians are rich / wealthy / generous ..


are we still talking of Uncle harry here ??

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:54 am

ecureilx wrote:
Well, my other half's gonna be thrilled at that .. :D :D


Of course, there are always exceptions. Duuuuuh....

ecureilx wrote:I have counselled filipinos, and when I told them they can report their abusive employer / exploiting employer, the answer was "well, what if the MOM people close my boss company down and other filipinos loose their job .. "

Yah, you are right there ..

You forgo to add "Bahala Nah ..." and it does get on your nerves, like when a colleague couldn't find a replacemtn job, when her employer went bus, she decided to pack her bags and go back, leaving all her credit cards, phone bills and all hanging, and she was broke .. pretty broke .. simply because "bahala nah .. " and she went "maybe I am not lucky to work in Singapore .. "


The lack of foresight and unwillingness to plan is also annoying, especially from relatives who just refuse to think ahead despite being told several times to do so.

On a comical note, I prefer the variant, "Bahala na si Batman." Yes, Batman. I blame Adam West. Uncle Harry wouldn't like us for that (and I'm sure he has the least flattering things to say about us). He'd prefer that we say "Bahala na si Harry" instead.

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Postby the lynx » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 1:04 pm

v4jr4 wrote:
nakatago wrote:That's why a lot of Filipinos dislike Indians--they see so much of them in them.


And I still see some Filipinos dating with Indians around Lucky Plaza (plus some "stories" that it's only a temporary date).


I think you mistook Bangladeshis as Indians. Hard to tell apart but you will be able to once you're used to it.
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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 1:38 pm

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nakatago wrote:That's why a lot of Filipinos dislike Indians--they see so much of them in them.


And I still see some Filipinos dating with Indians around Lucky Plaza (plus some "stories" that it's only a temporary date).


I think you mistook them for Bangladeshis. Hard to tell apart but you will be able to once you're used to it.


I can't tell (yet), but I suspect that the clue is in the sense of fashion.
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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 1:55 pm

nakatago: my colleagues here are laughing over your Bahala na si batman statement :D


v4jr4 wrote: ... I can't tell (yet), but I suspect that the clue is in the sense of fashion.


Or the lack of fashion ?? :D





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Postby nakatago » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 2:00 pm

ecureilx wrote:nakatago: my colleagues here are laughing over your Bahala na si batman statement :D

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God/Bathala > Jesus Christ > Batman > Jose Rizal > Andres Bonifacio > Ferdinand Marcos/Cory Aquino > Fernando Poe Jr./Erap > Kris Aquino

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 2:03 pm

ecureilx wrote:nakatago: my colleagues here are laughing over your Bahala na si batman statement :D


Google translates it as "care that Batman". Hmmm... :?


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v4jr4 wrote: ... I can't tell (yet), but I suspect that the clue is in the sense of fashion.


Or the lack of fashion ?? :D


Or the one that goes viral some months ago: dancing in MRT :P
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Postby nakatago » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 2:06 pm

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ecureilx wrote:nakatago: my colleagues here are laughing over your Bahala na si batman statement :D


Google translates it as "care that Batman". Hmmm... :?


Methinks Google doesn't bother refining their Tagalog translations because there just isn't a high demand for it.

About Batman: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 657AAhjGcx

And what the Philippine government did about it: http://malignosentinel.com/2011/05/30/p ... si-batman/

For your benefit:

Bahala Na: This attitude, loosely translated into English as 'fatalistic passiveness', actually describes the Filipino way of life, in which, he is determined to do his best, hence the term bahala na, which actually came from the phrase bathalan na, meaning 'I will do all my best, let God take care of the rest'.


sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_psychology

Emphasis mine. Most Filipinos forget the first part of what I bolded.

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 2:13 pm

v4jr4 wrote:Or the one that goes viral some months ago: dancing in MRT :P


The dancing talent was Indian, if I remember correctly !!!

Nakatago: let me see how the 'community' responds to your drawing of the lineage .. :D

And .. for some fun ..

This been going around ..

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PS: The google translate thingy - well, once it translated the letters TN (Taml Nadu) -> Jayalitha (the Chief Minister of TN)[/img]

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 2:27 pm

nakatago wrote:
v4jr4 wrote:
ecureilx wrote:nakatago: my colleagues here are laughing over your Bahala na si batman statement :D


Google translates it as "care that Batman". Hmmm... :?


Methinks Google doesn't bother refining their Tagalog translations because there just isn't a high demand for it.

About Batman: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 657AAhjGcx

And what the Philippine government did about it: http://malignosentinel.com/2011/05/30/p ... si-batman/

For your benefit:

Bahala Na: This attitude, loosely translated into English as 'fatalistic passiveness', actually describes the Filipino way of life, in which, he is determined to do his best, hence the term bahala na, which actually came from the phrase bathalan na, meaning 'I will do all my best, let God take care of the rest'.


sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_psychology

Emphasis mine. Most Filipinos forget the first part of what I bolded.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Keep calm and bahala na si Batman :lol:
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Postby movingtospore » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 3:51 pm

I've often wondered, though, if all of the Philippines' best prospects stopped leaving the country and stayed home, how that would change things. It's no wonder corruption is such an issue when most people with any prospects at all leave?


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