Did I miss out on an offer for refusing to hand over my last

[offshoreoildude]

I refused to hand over my last payslips to the local HR manager for a large MNC oil and service company. My view is that;

1. I'm bound by the original confidentiality agreement with my previous employer which specifically includes not disclosing salary levels.
2. If they want a professional they surely have some idea of what the position is worth - they can make an offer and we can go from there.

IT's not great loss - the next company to offer was a UK based on and we sorted out the pay level in 5 minutes on the phone.

I basically despise local HR managers here anyways.

[sundaymorningstaple]

If the HR manager was local and you had not been able to sit down with the end user, yeah, the local SOB probably file 13'd your CV out of spite. If it had been already forwarded to the end user for review, then you probably would have been okay as HR would have been caught holding the bag if the end user wanted to know what happened to the candidate that belonged to the CV forwarded earlier. Local HR Managers are as worthless as the HH's that support them.

[nutnut]

I hate that! I tend to say: Sure, I'll pass it to you upon contract negotiation and then get to the hiring manager and hope that I don't need to.

[offshoreoildude]

If the HR manager was local and you had not been able to sit down with the end user, yeah, the local SOB probably file 13'd your CV out of spite. If it had been already forwarded to the end user for review, then you probably would have been okay as HR would have been caught holding the bag if the end user wanted to know what happened to the candidate that belonged to the CV forwarded earlier. Local HR Managers are as worthless as the HH's that support them.

I told the hiring manager (a Norge) what had happened. He seemed a little powerless against Singapore HR but emailed me yesterday to ask if I was available. I told him I'd moved on as I wasn't prepared to wait for Singapore HR to get their act together.

[the lynx]

I refused to hand over my last payslips to the local HR manager for a large MNC oil and service company. My view is that;

1. I'm bound by the original confidentiality agreement with my previous employer which specifically includes not disclosing salary levels.
2. If they want a professional they surely have some idea of what the position is worth - they can make an offer and we can go from there.

IT's not great loss - the next company to offer was a UK based on and we sorted out the pay level in 5 minutes on the phone.

I basically despise local HR managers here anyways.

I agree. As what nutnut said, I'll only submit after contract negotiation and confirmation by signature. But I was still required to submit for my current employment. What the hell is that for? Trying to check if I get paid way too much from my previous salary?

[offshoreoildude]

The local HR people could barely organize the interview (by video). It was at 5pm - went for 90 mins and when I went to leave there was no one to let me out of the building - they'd all freak off home!