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PR Rejected - Reasons & Recourse?

Postby idle_cursor » Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:34 pm

Hi - Just checked online today to find my PR application status go from pending to rejected.. :( Been on it ever since we applied back in Feb and guess our anxiety and luck ran out tonight. We haven't received the letter yet but can't be hoping against hopes for it to state otherwise.. :)

Understand the evaluation criteria/rationale is not made public, but will appreciate any opinion the veteran board members have to share about our profiles:

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Married, No kids
Both 29yr old Indian citizens
Stay: 4.5yrs for me and 2yr for her at the time of application
Annual Household Income: $250K+, evenly split
Education/Professional Background:
MBA (NUS) + Engineering Degree (top school in India), working in an US MNC
She's a MBA + CPA, working as Consultant in a Big 4 firm
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Appreciate any feedback and suggestions on further course of action.
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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:50 pm

The only negative (in ICA's eyes) is your race. Based on all of your other stats, I'm honestly surprised they turned you down. I'm assuming there is no criminal record or immigration hijinks you didn't mention?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:11 am

How long have you been married?

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Postby idle_cursor » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:21 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:How long have you been married?

Married for 2.5 yrs. No criminal records :lol: Wondering if ICA would have sat on an application with a spotty record for over 6 months.

Just curious if anyone has heard of an "auto-rejection" after 6 months. Date of application was 17-Feb
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Postby vishalgupta2 » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 2:56 am

I am very surprised by the outcome.

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Postby guyg » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 5:23 am

This may be a dumb question but I have to ask... Is that annual or monthly income?

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Re: PR Rejected - Reasons & Recourse?

Postby the lynx » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 8:41 am

idle_cursor wrote:Monthly Household Income: $250K+, evenly split.


I don't know, guyg. He said 'monthly' but then again he said 'evenly split'. But if you do calculations, each month the household income could be either 250K (or 125K per spouse) or 20.8K (or 10.4K per spouse).

I would like to work for OP if he really earns 250K per month, even as a maid. Perhaps an Asian maid dressed in French maid costume? :P :lol: :cool:

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 9:03 am

vishalgupta2 wrote:I am very surprised by the outcome.


You forgot this:

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Re: PR Rejected - Reasons & Recourse?

Postby idle_cursor » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 9:56 am

the lynx wrote:
idle_cursor wrote:Monthly Household Income: $250K+, evenly split.


I don't know, guyg. He said 'monthly' but then again he said 'evenly split'. But if you do calculations, each month the household income could be either 250K (or 125K per spouse) or 20.8K (or 10.4K per spouse).

I would like to work for OP if he really earns 250K per month, even as a maid. Perhaps an Asian maid dressed in French maid costume? :P :lol: :cool:


Oops, that was a slip up, just edited the post. :)

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Re: PR Rejected - Reasons & Recourse?

Postby singaporeflyer » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:49 am

idle_cursor wrote:Hi - Just checked online today to find my PR application status go from pending to rejected.. :( Been on it ever since we applied back in Feb and guess our anxiety and luck ran out tonight. We haven't received the letter yet but can't be hoping against hopes for it to state otherwise.. :)

Understand the evaluation criteria/rationale is not made public, but will appreciate any opinion the veteran board members have to share about our profiles:

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Married, No kids
Both 29yr old Indian citizens
Stay: 4.5yrs for me and 2yr for her at the time of application
Annual Household Income: $250K+, evenly split
Education/Professional Background:
MBA (NUS) + Engineering Degree (top school in India), working in an US MNC
She's a MBA + CPA, working as Consultant in a Big 4 firm
----------------------------

Appreciate any feedback and suggestions on further course of action.


My 2 cents. Wait for 1 to 1.5 years and try again.

See if in any additional way you can contribute continuously to Singapore. Not only till the application, surely beyond that too. (apart from the economic contribution)

Good Luck !

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 2:04 pm

Probably what is stopping them, aside from their obvious stumbling block at the current point in time, may well be the fact that their incomes are just normal giving the fact that they are in MNC/Big4 and currently without any children (and apparently not looking to have any in the short term). I would say the fact that their race (and the stereotype that they like to collect PR) coupled with the fact that they are in MNCs which means transfers possibly to other "Developed" countries, might make the ICA look at it and wonder if they will be quitters a little way down the road.

I don't know. On the face of it, it looks good, but the little niggling points I raised make me think much the same as SF in his post above.

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Postby acr123 » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 5:10 pm

Hello ,
You are not alone.. Mine is also rejected after waited for over 5 months. My case I am the only earning member (180++).. I had applied for myself, my wife+ my son (4 years).. I aam in Sinhapore with my family for more than 4 years and applied after 4 years only. Was looking for long term stay here. But it looks like they just look at race ..Nothing else :???:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 6:00 pm

acr123, it crappy to say, but it's looking like it more and more. Your case is probably stronger than the OP's case above, as you are in a higher income strata with housewife & son no less. Aside from race, and I'm assuming you are either an Indian or PRC, you look, on the face of it, like you would be ticking all the right boxes.

What I would suggest, is if you are really wanting to settle here, hang in there for another two years just to show them you are not going to be a quitter just because you were rejected once. That possibly will help as would getting more involved with your community if you are not already doing so. This may no longer really be of any benefit, but it can't hurt. Unfortunately the tendency for those from the subcontinent to try to duplicate successful predecessors, e.g., copy cat applications has now made it somewhat of a joke as too many contributed up till the time of successfully obtaining their PR and after that, Pffft! Leave additional sour tastes in ICAs mouth, much like the quitters do. So, my advice is to just hang in there. I know it sucks, but not much can be done. Your fellow countrymen screwed it up for you.

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Postby v4jr4 » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 6:18 pm

Side question: I heard that MoM may reject the PR renewal, and I assume that will be the perfect time to apply PR. In such time, will gahmen send a letter to offer it to high profile EP holders whose PR applications were rejected in the past?

I hear there are some cases where gahmen offers citizenship to some PR holders. But there's a rumor (I'm not sure if the guy that told me this trolls me or not) that gahmen may offer PR to some high profile EP holders.

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Postby idle_cursor » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 6:21 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Probably what is stopping them, aside from their obvious stumbling block at the current point in time, may well be the fact that their incomes are just normal giving the fact that they are in MNC/Big4 and currently without any children (and apparently not looking to have any in the short term). I would say the fact that their race (and the stereotype that they like to collect PR) coupled with the fact that they are in MNCs which means transfers possibly to other "Developed" countries, might make the ICA look at it and wonder if they will be quitters a little way down the road.

I don't know. On the face of it, it looks good, but the little niggling points I raised make me think much the same as SF in his post above.


Yea it's quite unfortunate that stereotypes seem to precede objective assessments here. Agree that flight risks could be a potential judgement criterion - but if you think about it - it kind of correlates to the competence level of an individual and the ease of mobility in today's world.

I, probably, should have taken up ICA's PR invitation back during my NUS days but it took me 4 yrs to decide. Like they say hindsight is always 20/20 :)


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