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Postby shiranaihito » Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:06 pm

hi,

who asked for increment before, how do u phrase it?



:)


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Postby Nigel Teo » Thu, 20 Sep 2012 1:00 pm

But you must have a base to phrase it.. like you have a better offer, you have been working for so many years, or you have some expenses increase in the future...

If you have this, it is very easy that you propose your increment. But if is not, it is hard for you to do this...

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Postby the lynx » Thu, 20 Sep 2012 1:16 pm

Nigel Teo wrote:But you must have a base to phrase it.. like you have a better offer (never use this, it is considered as a form of threat), you have been working for so many years (valid point but you should focus more on your contribution to the company), or you have some expenses increase in the future (your boss will tell you to watch and manage your spending instead)...

If you have this, it is very easy that you propose your increment. But if is not, it is hard for you to do this...


Seriously Nigel, you either never negotiated for a higher salary before, or your boss is sucker enough for such excuses above, or you're just posting inane posts to jack up the PM feature.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 20 Sep 2012 1:27 pm

the lynx wrote:Seriously Nigel, you either never negotiated for a higher salary before, or your boss is sucker enough for such excuses above, or you're just posting inane posts to jack up the PM feature.


Most likely the latter...... from an HR Manager! :P

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 20 Sep 2012 1:34 pm

the lynx wrote:
Nigel Teo wrote:But you must have a base to phrase it.. like you have a better offer (never use this, it is considered as a form of threaten), you have been working for so many years (valid point but you should focus more on your contribution to the company), or you have some expenses increase in the future (your boss will tell you to watch and manage your spending instead)...

If you have this, it is very easy that you propose your increment. But if is not, it is hard for you to do this...


Seriously Nigel, you either never negotiated for a higher salary before, or your boss is sucker enough for such excuses above, or you're just posting inane posts to jack up the PM feature.


+1.

In fact, all of those "excuses" are the very worst you could use. They say nothing of your value add to the company, Nigel, and you'd be thrown out of my office with haste if that's the only reasons you have for wanting more money.

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Postby nutnut » Thu, 20 Sep 2012 2:01 pm

Agreed with all above.

Show what you have achieved for the company. As you are asking for money, it's wise to show the money that you have made or saved for the company due to work you have done above and beyond. If you have not done anything well/above and beyond/at all and are struggling to find a reason for why they should give you more money, then chances are, you don't deserve it!

Years of service/finding another offer/additional expenses are not a good starting point for sure! Never think yourself irreplaceable, there is always someone able and willing to do your job at the same rate as you are currently on!

Do you have a development program in your company? Have you met criteria and beaten it? Are you taking on and asking for additional responsibilities? Are you an ambassador for your company both in and out of the office?

good luck, let's hope you go about it a better way than Nigel suggests...
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Postby JayCee » Thu, 20 Sep 2012 4:00 pm

Nigel Teo wrote:But you must have a base to phrase it.. like you have a better offer, you have been working for so many years, or you have some expenses increase in the future...

If you have this, it is very easy that you propose your increment. But if is not, it is hard for you to do this...


Don't forget to trim your nasal hair before you go into the office :roll:
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Postby Mi Amigo » Thu, 20 Sep 2012 7:31 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
the lynx wrote:Seriously Nigel, you either never negotiated for a higher salary before, or your boss is sucker enough for such excuses above, or you're just posting inane posts to jack up the PM feature.


Most likely the latter...... from an HR Manager! :P

From his other vacuous posts I'd say Nigel's motives are fairly clear at this point.

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