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Postby nutnut » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 9:20 pm

I have no opinion on Perth, however, I prefer driving in central London and Downtown Manhatten to here. Both of which I have driven around recently and have more courteous drivers than here.

I sold my car here, I hated driving that much!
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 9:50 pm

Which, as I said on here before, is exactly what I did back in '91 shortly after the MRT started. I still don't own one. I am currently the caretaker of one for a couple of years but the only time I actually use it is on the Weekends. Even then if I have to go to downtown, I take the bus/rail. Local drivers give me HBP with their total lack of driving skills (point only - not drive) and total lack of graciousness when on the roads.

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 6:35 am

My first car, looking spiffy after a wash-down 'n wax, hub caps polished and tyres scrubbed! Bronze '74 Malibu, auto 6 cylinder, bench seats. My take-away from that car was you don't have to spend a fortune to have a car that is reliable and a lot of fun to drive. All original 23.9k miles when bought from estate sale in '99, at c$3.5k. Sold it 2 years later for the exact same price... :)


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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 6:59 am

Chevy Malibu was a nice ride. Mid-size and with the 6 was reasonable economical "in it's day". Don't believe I ever remember seeing a bronze coloured one. Nice. And yeah, estate sales are fabulous. My second car was one of those, the third one may as well have been as it was an extremely low mileage but daily runner bought from the original owner. It had never been out of the state of Texas when I bought it.

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 7:26 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Chevy Malibu was a nice ride. Mid-size and with the 6 was reasonable economical "in it's day". Don't believe I ever remember seeing a bronze coloured one. Nice. And yeah, estate sales are fabulous. My second car was one of those, the third one may as well have been as it was an extremely low mileage but daily runner bought from the original owner. It had never been out of the state of Texas when I bought it.


Yes economical, AFAIR by '74 the oil-shock had just really hit and that is when you seen the big-block cars like the the muscle cars and so on suddenly die a death. The above was a dawn of a different era, so no 20 second miles thats for sure :) But bench seats with room for 4 across front and back and the memorable 6'+ bonnet which made it like driving whilst in the back seat for a European as the road in front seemed so far away, and a bouncy ride like a sledge in a snowdrift... it was a lot of fun, I'd have brought it home but street parking her in London was a complete non-starter.

p.s. When I bought it it came with all the original dox, order slip, receipt, maintenace manuals (the size of two solid phone books!), plus the original owners record of every single thing he's done to the old beast from replacing a spark plug, rotating tyres, every oil change ++ upwards!! (reckon he must have been a bit OCD... you should have seen the log-book! - which I course I then felt compelled to continue lol!)

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Postby sensei_ » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 9:17 am

x9200 wrote:Sorry, it's nothing personal but really hard to believe. What you say about Perth sounds like what I see everyday here in much higher intensity. The only good thing about the local traffic is that it is very, very predictable. That's why I say it is pretty safe. People behave like half brain morons but there is no craziness factor involved. The risk comes mainly from the situations that are unavoidable or hard to control once you decided to join the traffic. I got hit by a cab going straight from the lane for left turn only. I see this kind of maneuvers few times a week and in most civilized countries this is something unthinkable. I could have avoided it if I have a habit to turn only from the lanes adjacent to the kerb what is hardly practical.


you forget that in a city that is half the size (population wise) of singapore, yet with such vast spaces, driving in perth shouldnt have the problems that we see, however the poor infrastructure contributes to the stresses of driving in perth.

nutnut wrote:I have no opinion on Perth, however, I prefer driving in central London and Downtown Manhatten to here. Both of which I have driven around recently and have more courteous drivers than here.

I sold my car here, I hated driving that much!


now if only more people would sell their cars, i would be able to open up more of the cylinders on the S500 :D

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 9:25 am

sensei_ wrote:
x9200 wrote:Sorry, it's nothing personal but really hard to believe. What you say about Perth sounds like what I see everyday here in much higher intensity. The only good thing about the local traffic is that it is very, very predictable. That's why I say it is pretty safe. People behave like half brain morons but there is no craziness factor involved. The risk comes mainly from the situations that are unavoidable or hard to control once you decided to join the traffic. I got hit by a cab going straight from the lane for left turn only. I see this kind of maneuvers few times a week and in most civilized countries this is something unthinkable. I could have avoided it if I have a habit to turn only from the lanes adjacent to the kerb what is hardly practical.


you forget that in a city that is half the size (population wise) of singapore, yet with such vast spaces, driving in perth shouldnt have the problems that we see, however the poor infrastructure contributes to the stresses of driving in perth.


Yeah, but consider that only 12% of the population here has cars. Australia is 73%. I'd be scared to see Singapore with 25-30% car ownership...

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Postby sensei_ » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 9:56 am

zzm9980 wrote:Yeah, but consider that only 12% of the population here has cars. Australia is 73%. I'd be scared to see Singapore with 25-30% car ownership...


you will run out of road before you have to start worrying about "poor driving"

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Postby bluenose » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 1:23 pm

I have driven in Singapore for the last 7 years....prior to that UK,Spain,Holland,Australia,Egypt,Saudi,Kuwait, and have experienced driving conditions in Nigeria, USA,Iraq amongst many others and passed my test in London years ago......and by far the worst driving I have seen is SINGAPORE...Olympic Gold would be easily won by the red dot for the most selfish and incompetent drivers...

Worst thing is.....they think they are brilliant.....but mainly due to the lack of psychologists here who can at first address the mental health issues here :wink:

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Postby the lynx » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 1:39 pm

bluenose wrote:Worst thing is.....they think they are brilliant.....but mainly due to the lack of psychologists here who can at first address the mental health issues here :wink:


This will definitely go off the topic but I have encountered many poor Singaporeans who studied psychology in NUS who had no choice but to take up jobs outside of their field or pursue post-grad just for the sake of doing something.

And mental health (or sickness) is a taboo to be addressed in open.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 2:46 pm

bluenose wrote:...the most selfish and incompetent drivers...

Worst thing is.....they think they are brilliant...


This I agree with. They're definitely the most selfish and incompetent drivers I've seen. Maybe it's not the "worst" or "most dangerous", but at least places I've been with worse drive (India for one), the drivers were fully aware of their reckless actions. Here they just have no clue what is going on.

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Postby bluenose » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 3:09 pm

Some people have no sense of Humour....even tongue in cheek humour is lost here it seems....

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 3:21 pm

Actually, wasn't anything tongue-in-cheek. You spoke the actual truth. Not too much funny about it though. :(

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 06 Aug 2012 4:58 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Actually, wasn't anything tongue-in-cheek. You spoke the actual truth. Not too much funny about it though. :(

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Postby Brah » Tue, 07 Aug 2012 9:27 pm

I was out of the country last week and remember seeing something, maybe in a magazine, where Singapore won the prize for being the world's worst drivers (I would have thought India or Bostonians).

Any one else see that?

It wasn't this, however: http://sbr.com.sg/transport-logistics/c ... xi-drivers


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