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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:18 pm

macaroonie wrote:Shouldn't the real purpose be to create a happy, respectful, ethical, efficient working environment so that employees are happy to be working for the company, rather than monetary strategies just to keep employees? Same goes for those appointed to managerial positions, their performance should be assessed by their seniors and subordinates and not just give free range to do whatever they want, promote their own agendas etc


Nirvana Pte. Ltd.? Let me know if there's a slot for an IT guy :D

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:36 pm

v4jr4 wrote:
macaroonie wrote:Shouldn't the real purpose be to create a happy, respectful, ethical, efficient working environment so that employees are happy to be working for the company, rather than monetary strategies just to keep employees? Same goes for those appointed to managerial positions, their performance should be assessed by their seniors and subordinates and not just give free range to do whatever they want, promote their own agendas etc


Nirvana Pte. Ltd.? Let me know if there's a slot for an IT guy :D


Sorry but the company shut down already.

http://www.tv.com/shows/dilbert/watch/t ... ion-12007/

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:53 pm

nakatago wrote:
v4jr4 wrote:
macaroonie wrote:Shouldn't the real purpose be to create a happy, respectful, ethical, efficient working environment so that employees are happy to be working for the company, rather than monetary strategies just to keep employees? Same goes for those appointed to managerial positions, their performance should be assessed by their seniors and subordinates and not just give free range to do whatever they want, promote their own agendas etc


Nirvana Pte. Ltd.? Let me know if there's a slot for an IT guy :D


Sorry but the company shut down already.

http://www.tv.com/shows/dilbert/watch/t ... ion-12007/


Too bad I can't see it *searching youtube*

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:02 am

macaroonie wrote:Shouldn't the real purpose be to create a happy, respectful, ethical, efficient working environment so that employees are happy to be working for the company, rather than monetary strategies just to keep employees? Same goes for those appointed to managerial positions, their performance should be assessed by their seniors and subordinates and not just give free range to do whatever they want, promote their own agendas etc


Sorry to burst your bubble, but as much as I like your first statement, it is always about money for the employees' end.

More money on the other side? Hop right over.

This is the reality, we are suckers for more money. The only bunch of people who do not look at money as motivation for work are social workers, researchers, missionaries and artists.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:07 am

The only bunch of people who do not look at money as motivation for work are social workers, researchers, missionaries and artists.


And me.

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:26 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Nah, it's not a reward but a layaway plan to keep you for at least one year before you go off job hopping as is the wont of locals like it's almost a game. That's why even now, we only give 70% to the various employees on their personal religious holidays, cause a lot will jump ship even then. Some are hard core though and will still jump.


Just a thought. What if you hold back that 30% until CNY and the said employee jumps anyway before CNY? Does that employee still receive the remainder in his final pay slip? (Because technically, the employee is already awarded; you're just holding back certain percentage to be given on another date)

Am I interpreting this correctly?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:24 am

Nope, not in our case anyway as the Bonus isn't a "declared" bonus nor is it of a fixed prestated amount or percentage. That way, just the the gahmen, we hold the cards. But yeah, we still lose some but what to do? Our industry is revolving door at the best of times as you well know. :-|

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Postby v4jr4 » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:50 pm

macaroonie wrote:Shouldn't the real purpose be to create a happy, respectful, ethical, efficient working environment so that employees are happy to be working for the company, rather than monetary strategies just to keep employees? Same goes for those appointed to managerial positions, their performance should be assessed by their seniors and subordinates and not just give free range to do whatever they want, promote their own agendas etc


Still, this reminds me about one of my cousins, with 10 years experience in a pretty big company, which was suddenly retrenched, and his position was filled in by his junior in a blink of an eye. I could assume that this junior would cost less than my cousin, plus, the company (or at least his supervisor) decided that my cousin had contributed enough. Efficient? :P

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Postby duffyhair » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 8:27 pm

i was asked to report at the end of this month in SG.. today morning, I get a call and the HR asks me to hold on for another 4 months..
i have resigned from my current job and packing up! and I get this call from the HR.. totally clueless on next step..

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Postby offshoreoildude » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 8:55 pm

duffyhair wrote:i was asked to report at the end of this month in SG.. today morning, I get a call and the HR asks me to hold on for another 4 months..
i have resigned from my current job and packing up! and I get this call from the HR.. totally clueless on next step..


Well... depending on the t and c of your contract I'd certainly expect to be paid while waiting to go. Have you signed a contract? If this an internal transfer or complete change of jobs/companies etc?
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Postby duffyhair » Mon, 08 Oct 2012 9:18 pm

offshoreoildude wrote:Well... depending on the t and c of your contract I'd certainly expect to be paid while waiting to go. Have you signed a contract? If this an internal transfer or complete change of jobs/companies etc?


Its a complete change of companies. The terms and conditions specify the start date of assignment and specifies one month of notice period on either side. I am techno functional SAP consultant and I offered her to work on other SAP assignments, but no projects at their end.
So, I think the HR has called up and informed me about this change of start-date as potential "notice period".

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Postby nutnut » Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:35 pm

Wow, that's out of order! they have to pay you at least 1 month notice, but, that's not much help I guess!

Not much you can do I guess if they uphold the contract, pretty shitty way to start a new member of staff though :(
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Postby charleswanmushi » Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:55 pm

Well, not quite. I do know of job openings for expat homemakers that pays quite well in fact. $50/hr if i remember correctly. Too bad that its only for females.

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Postby zzm9980 » Sat, 27 Oct 2012 3:01 pm

charleswanmushi wrote:Well, not quite. I do know of job openings for expat homemakers that pays quite well in fact. $50/hr if i remember correctly. Too bad that its only for females.


Oh really? But how many hours a night can they work? :cool: :evil:

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Postby charleswanmushi » Mon, 29 Oct 2012 1:00 pm

its a part-time day-job actually. like a local consultant/coordinator for new expats and their families. my mate's wife earns an average of $400 per assignment which is about half a day. i think the relocation company has scheduled her jobs every other day or week. amazing!


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