Landlord Used Kitchen Knife To Intimidate/Threaten Tenant

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Post by beppi » Fri, 10 Aug 2012 5:10 pm

The Singapore police and judiciary have the (very sensible, in my opinion) policy to stay out of domestic disputes unless there's bodily or financial damage.
In your case, there has been a heated argument (= domestic dispute) between two people emotionally enraged and unable to reason. You have no proof that anything more (especially something illegal - arguing is allowed, and handling a knofe in the kitchen too!) has happened.
On the other hand, your landlord, if he reads this forum, has ample material (and clear proof) to sue you for defamation, because you called him "insane", "mad", "crazy", etc. in public writing. If he does that, you and not him will be penalized!
I can only advise you to calm down and stop being unreasonable (or emotional, which usually go together). If you are in a hole, you should stop digging!

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Post by x9200 » Fri, 10 Aug 2012 5:30 pm

So far he did not reveal any information that could have the LL easily identified -> No case for defamation.

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Post by sensei_ » Fri, 10 Aug 2012 8:28 pm

jonive wrote:If endangering someone's life with a knife is yawn to you, people should question whether you're sane enough to be let loose running around the streets with a knife in your pocket!

In America, if you caught your landlord entering your room without your permission on cam, you'd be arrested and detained for 24 hours!

But in Singapore, no one gives a bloody continental and you call Singapore one of the safest countries in the world? My butt greets to that!

Well, Singapore is not the rest of the world, I guess.
Let me share with you my experiences with law enforcement in Singapore and Australia.

I go out for a night out in town in Perth (hometown), I constantly get harassed by the locals (begging with threats of violence), not a weekend goes without an incident of someone getting bashed/king hit/etc.

I get pulled over by the RBT (alcohol testing roadblock), and get attitude from them for not blowing hard enough (asthma), and even threats of arrest if i dont blow into it properly.

On the other hand, I go out to town for a night of fun in singapore. There are no idiots with overinflated egos and drunkards looking for fights. Police here dont give two hoots about anyone if they are just enjoying themselves.

Even when I got pulled over for a RBT, the officer understood my problem (asthmatic). Even told me to drive safe and enjoy myself.

Telling me that singapore is unsafe? I beg to differ.

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Post by jonive » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 5:12 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:"Attempting to harm" and
holding a kitchen knife two inches from your stomach is a bit different don't you think? If the knife was that close and you didn't get cut doesn't sound like he was attempting anything other than intimidation to me.
It would be the same thing as someone pointing a gun at you without pulling the trigger. That's intimidation as well. I guess intimidation of any kind without willing witnesses or hard evidence is perfectly legal. I understand the systematic law now.

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Post by jonive » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 5:19 am

beppi wrote:The Singapore police and judiciary have the (very sensible, in my opinion) policy to stay out of domestic disputes unless there's bodily or financial damage.
In your case, there has been a heated argument (= domestic dispute) between two people emotionally enraged and unable to reason. You have no proof that anything more (especially something illegal - arguing is allowed, and handling a knofe in the kitchen too!) has happened.
On the other hand, your landlord, if he reads this forum, has ample material (and clear proof) to sue you for defamation, because you called him "insane", "mad", "crazy", etc. in public writing. If he does that, you and not him will be penalized!
I can only advise you to calm down and stop being unreasonable (or emotional, which usually go together). If you are in a hole, you should stop digging!
I am not trying to prove anything else other than the fact that he held a knife against my stomach just 2 inches away. I am not saying he hurt or touched me, because the fact is, he didn't.

As for the defamation, the LL was the one posting the same story in another forum first, before I came here and shared the incident. So who's defaming who? Plus, when you hold a knife against someone, I believe it's justifiable to call the LL insane, mad and crazy. I am not defaming the LL for no reason. There is already a Magistrate's Complaint under police investigation regarding this incident as we speak.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:54 am

jonive wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:"Attempting to harm" and
holding a kitchen knife two inches from your stomach is a bit different don't you think? If the knife was that close and you didn't get cut doesn't sound like he was attempting anything other than intimidation to me.
It would be the same thing as someone pointing a gun at you without pulling the trigger. That's intimidation as well. I guess intimidation of any kind without willing witnesses or hard evidence is perfectly legal. I understand the systematic law now.
It's about time. We've been telling you that for a couple of days now.

Even now, you tend to over dramatize everything till nobody knows what actually happened. First it was pointing a knife at you, then it was holding it 2 inches from your stomach and now in your last post it's "held a knife against my stomach AND just 2 inches away. So, was it actually against your stomach or was it two inches away. If you cannot keep it straight with all your other posts to go by, I can understand possibly why the police blew it off.
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Post by jonive » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:23 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
jonive wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:"Attempting to harm" and
holding a kitchen knife two inches from your stomach is a bit different don't you think? If the knife was that close and you didn't get cut doesn't sound like he was attempting anything other than intimidation to me.
It would be the same thing as someone pointing a gun at you without pulling the trigger. That's intimidation as well. I guess intimidation of any kind without willing witnesses or hard evidence is perfectly legal. I understand the systematic law now.
It's about time. We've been telling you that for a couple of days now.

Even now, you tend to over dramatize everything till nobody knows what actually happened. First it was pointing a knife at you, then it was holding it 2 inches from your stomach and now in your last post it's "held a knife against my stomach AND just 2 inches away. So, was it actually against your stomach or was it two inches away. If you cannot keep it straight with all your other posts to go by, I can understand possibly why the police blew it off.
It's about time for what? I still think the law is an ass, as one user mentioned.

As I have clarified in numerous posts. He nor his knife ever touched me, so it must have been 2 inches away. Understand the whole picture now?

The police did not blow it off. I tell it like it happened. But as many of you said, if no one get hurt or dies, then the police will not do anything.

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Post by Mad Scientist » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:52 am

Tell you what,

If there is an Oscar nominees for BEST Drama Queen in Police Serial 999
You ARE RIGHT UP THERE FOR NOMINATION!!
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Post by sensei_ » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:53 am

jonive wrote:It's about time for what? I still think the law is an ass, as one user mentioned..
If you find the law such an ass.... maybe its time to get the hell out of singapore, before you get injured/killed over potato peels. worse still, you end up killing someone, and then your country has to beg so that you have to see the noose/gallows.

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Post by zzm9980 » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 1:47 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:Tell you what,

If there is an Oscar nominees for BEST Drama Queen in Police Serial 999
You ARE RIGHT UP THERE FOR NOMINATION!!
I agree here with MS. What's the point of this thread? Don't you have a BFF or something you can call to gripe to? I'm really struggling to understand what the hell you're trying to accomplish with this thread other than being dramatic.

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Post by nutnut » Sat, 11 Aug 2012 5:42 pm

What a weird thread :S
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Post by jonive » Sun, 12 Aug 2012 2:01 am

Mad Scientist wrote:Tell you what,

If there is an Oscar nominees for BEST Drama Queen in Police Serial 999
You ARE RIGHT UP THERE FOR NOMINATION!!
Yeah, I get nominated or something, unlike you. A disgrace to your family for trashing other people online and never get nominated for anything worthwhile.

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Post by jonive » Sun, 12 Aug 2012 2:04 am

sensei_ wrote:
jonive wrote:It's about time for what? I still think the law is an ass, as one user mentioned..
If you find the law such an ass.... maybe its time to get the hell out of singapore, before you get injured/killed over potato peels. worse still, you end up killing someone, and then your country has to beg so that you have to see the noose/gallows.
Still waiting for your bank transfer on that one, otherwise Changi is not available to me.

On a side note, you might want to see a psychologist for your rude local attitude. You seem like the type that has pointed a knife at somebody. If that's the case, you should get the hell out of Singapore.

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Post by jonive » Sun, 12 Aug 2012 2:04 am

zzm9980 wrote:
Mad Scientist wrote:Tell you what,

If there is an Oscar nominees for BEST Drama Queen in Police Serial 999
You ARE RIGHT UP THERE FOR NOMINATION!!
I agree here with MS. What's the point of this thread? Don't you have a BFF or something you can call to gripe to? I'm really struggling to understand what the hell you're trying to accomplish with this thread other than being dramatic.
And why are you even trying to understand? It's none of your business.

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Post by jonive » Sun, 12 Aug 2012 2:08 am

sensei_ wrote:
jonive wrote:It's about time for what? I still think the law is an ass, as one user mentioned..
If you find the law such an ass.... maybe its time to get the hell out of singapore, before you get injured/killed over potato peels. worse still, you end up killing someone, and then your country has to beg so that you have to see the noose/gallows.
You won't find me killing anyone. Judging from your attitude, you are way more likely to kill someone in Singapore and face the death penalty. Shame on you local boy.

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