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Regarding S-pass application

Post by ThuyChi » Tue, 31 Jul 2012 9:01 pm

Hi,

I am currently holding Student pass, expires 8 Oct 2012. I am wondering, if I get a job now, can my employer apply for my S-pass when I hold on to the student pass? Or I have to cancel my student pass before my employer can apply for the S-pass?

And how is getting the visas for people in the Animation-Film Industry doing? I only have a WSQ diploma (in Animation - major VFX) at the moment. My degree will take time to get to me... I got a few job offers around this time last year, all my S-pass applications was rejected for "lack of experience and qualification". I didn't get the WSQ diploma back then though - it was just a temporary cert attached in the application.

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Post by ThuyChi » Wed, 01 Aug 2012 3:09 pm

Uhmm hiii?

To be honest I'm freaking out... I failed the visa thing last year and it have left me very stressed ever since... It isn't that I suck professionally (and nope, I'm not working for cheap to beat the locals either...), it's like the government deems that I am some kind of prostitute or something... I'm female, 20 this year, Vietnamese. One of my friend (who is a HR) told me probably the reason I failed was the combination of my age, gender and nationality :(

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Re: Regarding S-pass application

Post by hanabie » Thu, 02 Aug 2012 2:20 am

ThuyChi wrote:Hi,

I am currently holding Student pass, expires 8 Oct 2012. I am wondering, if I get a job now, can my employer apply for my S-pass when I hold on to the student pass? Or I have to cancel my student pass before my employer can apply for the S-pass?

And how is getting the visas for people in the Animation-Film Industry doing? I only have a WSQ diploma (in Animation - major VFX) at the moment. My degree will take time to get to me... I got a few job offers around this time last year, all my S-pass applications was rejected for "lack of experience and qualification". I didn't get the WSQ diploma back then though - it was just a temporary cert attached in the application.
That is probably why

http://www.mom.gov.sg/skills-training-a ... emand.aspx

I do not see any solid reason to deny your pass' application based on your age, gender and nationality.

Good luck. I'm applying S-Pass too at this moment. I will let you know if I get one.

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Post by ThuyChi » Wed, 12 Sep 2012 5:02 pm

Bump

Anyone has any ideas? I've gone to about ten or so interviews in the past month, mostly VFX artist/video editor/motion graphic artist and I got nothing, not even a hint at a job offer... At least last year people was willing to give me a contract :-|

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Post by v4jr4 » Wed, 12 Sep 2012 5:15 pm

Not only you. I think it's because MoM is stricter nowadays.

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic90370.html
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Post by ThuyChi » Wed, 12 Sep 2012 5:37 pm

I think so too... I was told by a studio I know well that they do want to hire me, but the levy per month on my head doesn't fit their budget at the moment. They're waiting for a new project (and the money) to come in before they offer me anything.

I wrote to WDA and MDA yesterday since it seems like I can try that road http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... nformation . Hope I get a job - and a pass. I was educated here, my friends and connections are mostly here, and I am in a serious relationship with a guy who is serving the NUS 3-years bond and paying his student loan :roll:

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Post by v4jr4 » Wed, 12 Sep 2012 5:54 pm

Frankly speaking, my brother also tried to look for a job here. Although he applied to several production houses in Singapore (he's working at Jakarta, and the salary is not as big as his friend's who works in Singapore), he got no feedback.

I'm not trying to scare you, but when I see the newspapers (Saturday), the job openings for 3D artists are rare.
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Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 12 Sep 2012 6:06 pm

ThuyChi wrote:Bump

Anyone has any ideas? I've gone to about ten or so interviews in the past month, mostly VFX artist/video editor/motion graphic artist and I got nothing, not even a hint at a job offer... At least last year people was willing to give me a contract :-|
While you have valid complaints about how you are treated because of race and gender, the fact of the matter is that the graphics industry is undergoing painful changes.

Gone are the days of the small production house that built the product for larger agencies who interfaced with the client. The houses that survive must now market, be the creative agent, and the production house.

A friend in the business says that Singapore businesses are the worst when it comes to graphics implementation. They are cheap. And unlike the MNC's, and EU/UK/US corporations that see the field as a marketing opportunity, Singapore business is still a decade behind.

Couple that with rendering farms, and cheap labor in China, and... dare I say it... Vietnam... if anything, the market here is shrinking even as the overall field expands.

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Post by v4jr4 » Wed, 12 Sep 2012 6:12 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:Gone are the days of the small production house that built the product for larger agencies who interfaced with the client. The houses that survive must now market, be the creative agent, and the production house.

A friend in the business says that Singapore businesses are the worst when it comes to graphics implementation. They are cheap. And unlike the MNC's, and EU/UK/US corporations that see the field as a marketing opportunity, Singapore business is still a decade behind.
No wonder my friend said that this industry can survive much better in Australia :-|
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Post by ThuyChi » Wed, 12 Sep 2012 6:17 pm

I'm Vietnamese - yes, the labour cos in Vietnam is CHEAP - and they despite overseas graduates for various reasons - I flew back to tried last year with interviews and sometimes the Vietnamese interviewer hated me upon seeing my resume... So even though if their superiors did want me, they just crossed me out of the list :-|

Oh well... It is indeed going under lots of changes, and is still far behind Europe, the US, New Zealand, ect. It's just that my friends are all here, and I want to be here with my boyfriend as well, so I just try to tough through.

My bf is a chemical engineer, current pay 3k. We've talked about marriage and if worse come to worst, we'll get married and wait for his pay to rise to 4k and apply a DP for me. Lucky me I'm equipped with all the useless housewife skills, flower arrangements and playing the piano included :P For the moment we don't want to make the commitment yet - my mom and his mom hates each other with a passion :roll:

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Post by ThuyChi » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:00 pm

I'm just thinking outloud here. If someone can shed some lights on my thoughts, I appriciate it...

I've gone to over 10 interviews, big, small and medium production house, from shophouses to big office in big building... I don't get why I couldn't get a job offer. Is this my attitude? I am pretty weird for a 20 year old girl, but my language is polite and respectful, and this industry is not filled with normal people anyhow :roll: I think I dress okay - black pants, black shoes and white shirt/polo. What is wrong with me? I mean, people wouldn't call me up for an interview just to waste their time, no? I can understand if I suck so much no one would bother calling me up, but here I get calls every other day and zero offer. I used to get offers last year - it was the visa thing that didn't turn out right. This round it's like something is wrong with me...

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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:02 pm

ThuyChi wrote:I'm just thinking outloud here. If someone can shed some lights on my thoughts, I appriciate it...

I've gone to over 10 interviews, big, small and medium production house, from shophouses to big office in big building... I don't get why I couldn't get a job offer. Is this my attitude? I am pretty weird for a 20 year old girl, but my language is polite and respectful, and this industry is not filled with normal people anyhow :roll: I think I dress okay - black pants, black shoes and white shirt/polo. What is wrong with me? I mean, people wouldn't call me up for an interview just to waste their time, no? I can understand if I suck so much no one would bother calling me up, but here I get calls every other day and zero offer. I used to get offers last year - it was the visa thing that didn't turn out right. This round it's like something is wrong with me...
What does your portfolio look like? Has anyone bought your work... ie, a client list?

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Post by ThuyChi » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:14 pm

Http://thuychi.weebly.com

I did freelance photography in weddings. And my motion graphic, the news thingy, was bought by a Vietnamese TV channel. That was about all my experience.

Maybe I really should pack my bag and try the rendering farm in Vietnam... Again.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:49 pm

ThuyChi wrote:Http://thuychi.weebly.com

I did freelance photography in weddings. And my motion graphic, the news thingy, was bought by a Vietnamese TV channel. That was about all my experience.

Maybe I really should pack my bag and try the rendering farm in Vietnam... Again.
What I didn't hear you say is that you are walking into interviews with your portfolio... a laptop or iPad with still images and video renderings of your imaging works. Nothing sells like talent... and if you have it, it will be evident in your work.

If I were hiring creative people, the first thing I would want to see is what and how they create.

Good luck.

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Post by v4jr4 » Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:49 pm

ThuyChi wrote:I did freelance photography in weddings. And my motion graphic, the news thingy, was bought by a Vietnamese TV channel. That was about all my experience.

Maybe I really should pack my bag and try the rendering farm in Vietnam... Again.
Well, do you have alternative plans? Like, perhaps, sending your CV and portfolios to production houses in Malaysia or Australia? I'm not sure about the job hunt in Vietnam though.
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