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Re: hello can anybody help me to know the answers of these q

Postby beppi » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 4:00 pm

beppi wrote:Browsing this and other forums, as well as reading the ICA and MoM webpages will help you.

I don't think you followed my advice, which would have answered almost all of your questions. Why not?
A friendlier attitude towards those of us who are trying to help you is also appropriate.

sachindeepp wrote:My question is that: His consultant said that he can apply for PR after 6 Months of marriage and he will get definitely the PR , Processing Time will be 2 months, so actually he will get PR after 8 Months Of Marriage, is that true.

As I said, he can apply, but he will be rejected (especially if he is Indian, as they currently don't accept Indians).
The Singapore authorities also dislike consultants, thus his chances will be higher if he applies without help. It is very easy and quick to do so, so please tell him to ditch this consultant!

sachindeepp wrote:4-Part 1 : he is 29 Years old , so please tell me that Is it compulsory for him to JOIN National Services (NS) for 2 years after getting PR after marriage.
4-Part 2 : and if he will not Join the NS then what will happen.
4-Part 3 : And also tell me how he can exempt himself from NS.

I think the age threshold is above 40 (check Ministry of Defense webpage!), so he would have to serve. If he does not, it is a criminal offense and he will be put into jail for a longer time (and will subsequently not get any visa for Singapore ever again).
The only way to exempt himself from that is NOT applying for PR.

sachindeepp wrote:13. Is the PR holder will get the red passport too.

Only citizens get a Singapore passport.
PR, EP, S-Pass are kinds of visa. They should have no influence on any other country's visa you apply for, but to be sure you need to ask that country's authorities.

sachindeepp wrote:14. if i am on Employment Pass or on S Pass in Singapore can i marry a Singapore Citizen girl. I mean Government of Singapore will allow me to marry her or not..

You can freely marry a Singaporean if you never had a WP in your life.
Please note that marrying does not entitle you to any visa that allows staying or working in Singapore. As mentioned before, you can probably get an LTVP (no work allowed) after living with your spouse for two years or so and if she has more than S$2800/month income. You can cover the time until then by having your own visa (e.g. EP) or living in another country.

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Re: hello can anybody help me to know the answers of these q

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 4:35 pm

beppi wrote:
sachindeepp wrote:4-Part 1 : he is 29 Years old , so please tell me that Is it compulsory for him to JOIN National Services (NS) for 2 years after getting PR after marriage.
4-Part 2 : and if he will not Join the NS then what will happen.
4-Part 3 : And also tell me how he can exempt himself from NS.

I think the age threshold is above 40 (check Ministry of Defense webpage!), so he would have to serve. If he does not, it is a criminal offense and he will be put into jail for a longer time (and will subsequently not get any visa for Singapore ever again).
The only way to exempt himself from that is NOT applying for PR.



If he is under 40 he has to register with the CMPB (military) for military service if he is given PR by virtue of his marriage to a Singaporean. (This does not apply if he gets his PR by virtue of the PTS - Professional/Technical Scheme). However, if he is over 30 the odds are that he will get a waiver (at least in the past they did). Now, however, it's hard to say what with the ground howling like stuck pigs. I know Saint got his PR via the Family Ties method, registered and was given the waiver as well (as did I, but I was already out to pasture).

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Postby Mad Scientist » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 5:25 pm

Methinks he is just weighing his options on where to go and using us a based to confirm his suspicions
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Postby sachindeepp » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 7:22 pm

Please do not dislike me Lynx, i was very much thank ful to you that you replied my questions,

thanks

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sachindeepp wrote:Sir you did not reply my 4th Question

there are three parts of 4th question Please reply all three parts of 4th question


That is because I ALREADY said that there are some questions I am not familiar with so I have to let other people who are more experienced to answer.

the lynx wrote:Erm... why are you posting twice? I have answered some of your questions above in green. I will leave the rest of the questions to those who are more experienced in specific parts.


And I'm starting to dislike you, sir, because of the way you demanded on how I should answer your questions - even though I have already mentioned previously that I'm not familiar with the same questions and I'm leaving those to others who are more experienced than I am.

A little phrase like "I'm sorry but you seemed to have missed my 4th question," would have convinced me to overlook your oversight to my previous post and probably asked others on your behalf.

There you go. Nice try.

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Postby sachindeepp » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 7:24 pm

are you talking about me sir

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And I'm starting to dislike you, sir,


And see here I am starting to like the guy. He is either extremely clueless and misguided, and about to get his hopes and dreams crushed by the combined weight of gahmen policy and ICA, or he's a very entertaining troll. Either way, well played. =D>

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 7:29 pm

Sachindeepp,

I think it would be simpler for all if you layed out the situation as it actually is, and what you are trying to achieve.

People can see that there is - apparently - some kind of game going on in the unspoken channel, which is why they've got rapidly tired of it.

It's up to you to clarify things.

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Postby sachindeepp » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 7:46 pm

I really do not understand what you want to say,

i need the help of you guys and what you are sying to me i dont understand this,

and what do you mean by game

JR8 wrote:Sachindeepp,

I think it would be simpler for all if you layed out the situation as it actually is, and what you are trying to achieve.

People can see that there is - apparently - some kind of game going on in the unspoken channel, which is why they've got rapidly tired of it.

It's up to you to clarify things.

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Postby v4jr4 » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 7:53 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
the lynx wrote:And I'm starting to dislike you, sir,


And see here I am starting to like the guy. He is either extremely clueless and misguided, and about to get his hopes and dreams crushed by the combined weight of gahmen policy and ICA, or he's a very entertaining troll. Either way, well played. =D>


Or language barrier :???:

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 7:53 pm

That's how the Singapore authorities will look at it, gaming the system.

I have neither time nor inclination to explain it further to you.

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Postby Mi Amigo » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 7:54 pm

sachindeepp wrote:I really do not understand what you want to say,

i need the help of you guys and what you are sying to me i dont understand this, and what do you mean by game

The thing is,. you've posted a number of very complicated lists of questions (and sub-questions), and you haven't really made it very clear:

(a) whether you are asking on behalf of your 'friend' or if this is really related to your situation (as you have them mixed up in some posts), and

(b) what exactly it is you (and/or your 'friend') are trying to achieve. For example, do you want to live in Singapore or Canada?

The best way to approach this forum is to give an initial summary of your status, race, nationality, salary, etc. (look at some other posts and you'll see what I mean), and then state clearly and succinctly what you are actually wanting to do. It's possible that all the relevant information can be divined from the various convoluted posts above, but I for one am somewhat confused (and bemused) by all those paragraphs and numbers, man. :???:

And just to add...

It's generally considered a bit rude to post a long message with lots of questions and then follow up a couple of minutes later with another post saying "please reply."
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Postby beppi » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 8:11 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:It's generally considered a bit rude to post a long message with lots of questions and then follow up a couple of minutes later with another post saying "please reply."

Yes, it is - very rude!
(And he did it twice already.)

Moderators: Can this discussion be separated from the original post (about divorce) and kept under a new heading (something like "Yet another confused Indian asking questions")?

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Postby sachindeepp » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 9:07 pm

Listen amigo sir, i was asking some thing from Beppi because he replied so many questions of mine , and i am thankful to him

but unintentionally i posted it three four times , and "the lynx"

Told me that i have posted my questions three four times, so i was unable to delete those so i edited it to "Please Reply"

and it was not for beppi or for someone else, i did this because i just want to delete my post posted twice as the delete button was not working on that of my post so i make it short by just saying "Please Reply"

And its not rude at all , I said please , and i am still thankful to you all that you are replying my questions.

Mi Amigo wrote:
sachindeepp wrote:I really do not understand what you want to say,

i need the help of you guys and what you are sying to me i dont understand this, and what do you mean by game

The thing is,. you've posted a number of very complicated lists of questions (and sub-questions), and you haven't really made it very clear:

(a) whether you are asking on behalf of your 'friend' or if this is really related to your situation (as you have them mixed up in some posts), and

(b) what exactly it is you (and/or your 'friend') are trying to achieve. For example, do you want to live in Singapore or Canada?

The best way to approach this forum is to give an initial summary of your status, race, nationality, salary, etc. (look at some other posts and you'll see what I mean), and then state clearly and succinctly what you are actually wanting to do. It's possible that all the relevant information can be divined from the various convoluted posts above, but I for one am somewhat confused (and bemused) by all those paragraphs and numbers, man. :???:

And just to add...

It's generally considered a bit rude to post a long message with lots of questions and then follow up a couple of minutes later with another post saying "please reply."

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Postby sachindeepp » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 9:13 pm

Hey Beppi,

yes i am confused , that is why i am asking the questions na , and i posted my question in this forum because i read all the answers you guys are giving is very good and i thought that you may help me ,

and beppi its is not rude at all sir, i ask please in my post "Please Reply" and especially its not for you and not for anybody else , i explained it to "Mi Amigo" in my previous reply already,


see i am not living in Singapore so how do i know the rules of Singapore you guys are living there already so you know me better than me ,

if you have any question regarding india i will happy to help you because i am an indian and knows everything about india,

so its up to you weather you say me confused person or help seeker,

but the matter of the fact is that i need help regarding my questions and i am still very thank ful to you beppi and all other persons who replied my questions

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 9:18 pm

sachindeepp wrote:so its up to you weather you say me confused person or help seeker,


And it's up to you to tell people what you're really trying to do. But you still haven't.

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Postby Mi Amigo » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 9:41 pm

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