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Loc/dependent pass-advice needed

Postby Helpneeded123 » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 8:56 pm

Hi, I always get valuable information from the forum, and finally I need to post a question myself. I've recently moved to Singapore and found a potential employer. My husband's company is about to apply for the dependent pass for me. After my dp is processed, my potential employer would be applying for LOC. The HR of my husband's company advised that because I do not have an actual certificate right now that my highest education qualification to be listed on DP would be highschool (I just graduated from a university in NY, USA a month ago, and they can take up to four months to mail out the diploma). I did my homework on this forum about people not having the actual cert and how Singapore gov doesn't consider you as a college graduate until you have the official cert. my concern is then, when my potential employer applies for LOC, my educational qualification would be high school as well? But that sounds like I'm not qualified to do the job without a degree. My school just emailed me and said they will write me a letter of certificate for me, but does it really not matter at all? My potential company is a marketing agency and they need somebody whose mother tongue is Japanese (I am a Japanese native), and it is an intern position which would convert to full time after 3 months. how should we deal with this situation? I am afraid of getting the LOC rejected because officially I would only be a "high school graduate" and in fact, I just graduated a university.

I'm losing a lot of sleep over this. I am so sorry if what I wrote is confusing. I guess I'm just really stressed and it's affecting my verbal ability to write clearly.

Thank you so much for your help!
Thank you in advance for valuable advice

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:05 pm

It is of no consequence to the MOM. A LoC is not dependent on qualifications like an EP is. All you need to do is find an employer who is willing to apply for and employ the LoC recipient. High school Diploma is fine. [/i]

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Postby Mi Amigo » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:09 pm

I'm no expert on this, but if I remember correctly from other posts on this subject, the criteria for a LOC are not so strict as for an employment pass. Your best bet is to use the search function (above here and to the right, underneath where it says 'Profile'). I'm fairly sure this subject has been discusssed a number of times before, so I'd suggest taking some time to try various searches around 'LOC'.

You could also check out the MOM website - a search on 'LOC' there revealed a number of potentially useful results, including:

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

Finally, perhaps you could also ask the university to write a letter confirming thatr you recently graduated, and ask your potential employer to explain all of this in a covering letter withe the LOC application?

Good luck, and try not to worry too much - at the end of the day it won't help, and what's meant to happen will happen.
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Postby Mi Amigo » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:11 pm

Aha, there you have it from the horse's mouth (and more concisely than I put it too). I was still typing my reply when SMS posted his, so it looks like you'll (hopefully) be OK.
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Thank you!

Postby Helpneeded123 » Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:44 pm

@Sms, thank you very much for your quick reply. I read some posts on this forum about LOC getting rejected and that scared me a lot! My husband doesn't understand why I get so stressed over this but I really need to start working soon or else I will lose my mind living in a foreign country!

@mi amigo, I appreciate your reply. The problem was whether I was technically a high school graduate or a degree holder on LOC. some posts on the forum say Singapore is different from, say USA where a Letter of certificate confirming the graduation before the actual cert came out would be enough.

I am going to show my potential employer the letter of certificate confirming my graduation and transcript, I really hope they would understand that my school notoriously sends out diplomas late.

Just to make sure I understand, because my husband's HR advised me to declare my highest education as highschool, my potential employer would have to declared the same on LOC, right? It sounds like a nobrainer question, but last time I spoke to them, they were saying, "u get a letter from the school, right? Then it should be fine", I don't want them to declare me as degree holder on LOC and there is discrepancy with my dp, and ended up providing false info under sg gov's eyes without my intention to do so. Am I too paranoid about this?

Again, thank you!
Thank you in advance for valuable advice

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:00 am

Put down High School and a note that you are waiting for your Degree and supply a copy of the letter of certification. that way you have covered all bases. But as noted, LoC isn't that stringent. Now, if you had never finished High School, then that might be a different story.

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Thanks again,

Postby Helpneeded123 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:27 am

Thanks again, you are a kind soul;)
No worries on the high school diploma, I have it right with me.
I will let you know what happens with my dp & LOC in some weeks time.
I will try not to worry so much as it's not doing any good to my crazies.
Have a great night!
Thank you in advance for valuable advice

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Postby the lynx » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 8:43 am

Just to let you know from my experience, I still got my pass issued despite not having my actual transcript with me (I started working in between my graduation and convocation).

Like what others advised, an official letter from your institution declaring that you are a graduating student awaiting for transcript is good enough. That's what I did.

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Thanks!

Postby Helpneeded123 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 1:54 pm

my research regarding whether I should list myself as degree holder or high school graduate was based on this, it's quoted from a discussion on this forum regarding certificates. I got to this discussion by searching for "graduation waiting" on this forum.

Asdracles wrote:Recently I did the application for a person who just completed a degree. Submitted a "letter of certificate" while waiting for a foreign university to issue the degree certificate.

MoM replied quickly saying that the application was INVALID (not rejected). When I emailed MoM (went to Havelock Rd and didn't get any other answer than "please email", you should tell me how to speak with a person there!) they replied that as there was a title not documented, I should remove that degree from the application, or wait until she has the official title.

My 2 cents....


what I was worried that If I insist on listing myself as degree holder on DP and LOC, and have my application being returned back to us because of my educational qualification being "invalid"

I don't know why I am making my life so difficult.
what do you think?
Thank you again for your advice and input:)
Thank you in advance for valuable advice

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Re: Thanks!

Postby the lynx » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 2:36 pm

Helpneeded123 wrote:my research regarding whether I should list myself as degree holder or high school graduate was based on this, it's quoted from a discussion on this forum regarding certificates. I got to this discussion by searching for "graduation waiting" on this forum.

Asdracles wrote:Recently I did the application for a person who just completed a degree. Submitted a "letter of certificate" while waiting for a foreign university to issue the degree certificate.

MoM replied quickly saying that the application was INVALID (not rejected). When I emailed MoM (went to Havelock Rd and didn't get any other answer than "please email", you should tell me how to speak with a person there!) they replied that as there was a title not documented, I should remove that degree from the application, or wait until she has the official title.

My 2 cents....


what I was worried that If I insist on listing myself as degree holder on DP and LOC, and have my application being returned back to us because of my educational qualification being "invalid"

I don't know why I am making my life so difficult.
what do you think?
Thank you again for your advice and input:)


That's strange. Mine had no problems. And FYI, my degree was from one of the MOM-approved universities in Malaysia.

Is your institution approved by MOM? Your degree wasn't via long-distance learning right?

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thanks!

Postby Helpneeded123 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 3:19 pm

It's a large public university in USA, not a distance learning degree, just a normal undergraduate degree. The list MOM has apparently is not a complete one, i was told. I couldn't find mine, considering there are so many universities in US, I figured they couldn't upload all.

So the general consensus here is that I should list myself as Degree holder on my dp? I should have a talk with the HR then. My husband insists that I am "technically" a high school graduate. I sometimes want to smack him, but oh well.
Thank you in advance for valuable advice

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Thanks

Postby Helpneeded123 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 3:20 pm

I just re-read what SMS said, put down as high school degree, and make a note. I will get back to you guys once I talk to the HR person!

Thank you!
Thank you in advance for valuable advice


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