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Re: PR wanna be, would be or will never be. Read this

Post by NobodyPaiseh » Fri, 29 Sep 2023 5:45 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Thu, 21 Sep 2023 1:14 pm
NobodyPaiseh wrote:
Sat, 16 Sep 2023 12:16 am
Is there any point to appealing a PR rejection whatsoever? Has anyone obtained a favourable outcome after appealing a rejection?

My rejection came in May of this year after an 11 month wait and I have not appealed, but I’d like to hear other folks’ thoughts.

My profile (since I see other people post this info):
Nationality: Naturalised Canadian, born in China
Age: 33 at the time of application last year
Marital status: Single
Education: BSc, Canadian university
Length of stay: 4 years
Work: Software Engineer (previously worked in Silicon Valley tech companies for 6 years before coming to SG)
Salary: ~150K/year not including bonus or RSU’s
Kids: no kids out of wedlock that I know of 😏 (jokes…)

I’m on an EP and not PEP.

Cheers!
They have worked out in the past, though are very very rare.
Any idea what the circumstances were for a successful appeal? Like, what could ICA have missed out the first time around that makes the appeal successful?
jalanjalan wrote:PR is a stepping stone to citizenship. Do you plan to give up Canadian citizenship and settle down here?
The specific criteria is a black box, but the intentions have been clearly stated.
I’m in a serious relationship and am considering settling down and starting a family, which is the consideration for PR in the first place. That said, there’s no way to tell ICA that’s my intention as they don’t ask for a cover letter or anything in the PR application 🤷🏻‍♂️.
sundaymorningstaple wrote:I reckon your chances are very slim to non-existent. You have already show them you are not a good candidate for PR as you emigrated once to Canada and became a naturalized citizen there and now looking to jump ship to Singapore. Don't look like an ideal candidate for a future citizen to me as you have already shown them you have no issue with changing passports. Good Luck, and I actually mean that, but frankly, from the way I see it you have a good sized hill to surmount.

However, having said that, a lot would depend on the information you didn't give us to work with, e.g. while you were born in China, when did you emigrate to Canada? As a young child or as an adult? I am sure this will be taken into consideration by ICA but is is still, as noted, a black box there. Based on the info given here I have to go with my first sentence.
Oh, that’s a good point that I didn’t think about.

That said, I think the latter is irrelevant from ICA’s perspective because they don’t ask for my naturalisation information, only birth certificate and _current_ nationality’s passport. Even if I wanted to say “hey, I was converted to a useless Canadian passport against my wishes as a baby!” there’s nowhere in the application to state that 😂.

It seems like the best path forward is settling down and having a family. In the mean time I’ll strive to get a new job in the 22.5K+ territory to quality for a PEP, and I’ll re-apply with that status.

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Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:15 pm

There are no official statistics, but I do personally know of two cases.

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Post by jalanjalan » Mon, 02 Oct 2023 2:01 pm

NobodyPaiseh wrote:
Fri, 29 Sep 2023 5:45 pm
jalanjalan wrote:PR is a stepping stone to citizenship. Do you plan to give up Canadian citizenship and settle down here?
The specific criteria is a black box, but the intentions have been clearly stated.
I’m in a serious relationship and am considering settling down and starting a family, which is the consideration for PR in the first place. That said, there’s no way to tell ICA that’s my intention as they don’t ask for a cover letter or anything in the PR application 🤷🏻‍♂️.
Cover letters are just words. They'll need to see the marriage cert and kids. Still no guarantee of course.

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Post by axyztj » Mon, 02 Oct 2023 3:25 pm

Hi guys, I am new in this forum. This is my case:
I am Japanese
30 years old
Currently working at Big Tech as Data Engineer
Monthly Salary: S$8000
I lived in Singapore since Q1 2020 as SP, and became EP Q2 2022
Consistent Donation and Volunteering
Single
Graduated from Top University in Japan
Currently taking an Online Masters from a Top US University

Last month, I received my second PR rejection (both rejected in 4 months)

Please, please advise. Thank you.

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Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 02 Oct 2023 4:26 pm

Yes, no such thing as guarantee when it comes to applying for PR.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 02 Oct 2023 4:29 pm

axyztj wrote:
Mon, 02 Oct 2023 3:25 pm
Hi guys, I am new in this forum. This is my case:
I am Japanese
30 years old
Currently working at Big Tech as Data Engineer
Monthly Salary: S$8000
I lived in Singapore since Q1 2020 as SP, and became EP Q2 2022
Consistent Donation and Volunteering
Single
Graduated from Top University in Japan
Currently taking an Online Masters from a Top US University

Last month, I received my second PR rejection (both rejected in 4 months)

Please, please advise. Thank you.
Not going to be easy for you. Need to stay longer, get a good increase in Salary and then attempt after 2 years.

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Post by axyztj » Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:05 pm

could anyone advice me if there's anything i could do to help? thank you

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Post by therat » Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:21 am

axyztj wrote:
Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:05 pm
could anyone advice me if there's anything i could do to help? thank you
nothing you can do
You come to Singapore on Q1 2020
Now is Q4 2023
in 3 yrs time and you have apply PR twice and rejected.

May 2023, apply PR 2nd time
Sept 2023, 2nd PR application reject (reject in 4 mth)

When is your 1st PR application?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:52 am

axyztj wrote:
Mon, 02 Oct 2023 3:25 pm
Hi guys, I am new in this forum. This is my case:
I am Japanese : Of no benefit as you are in the "Others" quota - the most heavily oversubscribed category
30 years old : Okay
Currently working at Big Tech as Data Engineer : Okay
Monthly Salary: S$8000 : Salary a bit on the low side - may or may not be a deal-breaker
I lived in Singapore since Q1 2020 as SP, and became EP Q2 2022 : 2 years on an EP more likely to have success (as long as no other negatives)
Consistent Donation and Volunteering : Useless and maybe negative as the reason for doing so is rather apparent and I don't mean altruistic
Single : No help in all probability - Easier to leave if a better offer in other country if another offer
Graduated from Top University in Japan : OK - but not enough by itself
Currently taking an Online Masters from a Top US University : of absolutely zero benefit until you actually have the sheepskin in your hands.

Last month, I received my second PR rejection (both rejected in 4 months)

Please, please advise. Thank you.


Wait 2 full years from the date of your last rejection to reapply. But only reapply if you have had major changes to your status, e.g., promotion along with substantial pay increase (say 25% or more); marriage (to a local preferably) but if the only change make sure you don't apply until after married 2 years - or one year if new wife produces offspring at the end of the 1st year or later; gained your Masters (but only if it is relevant to your position or future climb up the ladder of your current industry).

Donations, charitable works, property purchases are of zero use as they have been over abused and property only helps you. Doesn't help the country at all.

Might also be a good idea to make a Plan B as it were, to be on the safe side.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by bagush » Sun, 29 Oct 2023 8:45 am

Hi All,

I would like to seek your expert advise on below:
we applied PR in april 2023 and status is still "Pending".
Our child is currently studying in International School in K2 grade and we had applied for admission to a local school duing P1 registration exercise.
fortunately we got a confirmed place in local school for P1 January 2024 class.I would like to know if (and how) we should notify ICA about this change in particulars.I guess this would be seen as positive for PR application

Thanks in advance

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 29 Oct 2023 7:27 pm

There have been no particulars that have changed as of yet. Only after the child actually starts school could it have an impact (albeit in my opinion only it's not going to make any difference as it is not a major upgrade your salary or position or marital status). Therefore, while it is a positive it's not likely to be a game changer on the application.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by bagush » Thu, 02 Nov 2023 11:18 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sun, 29 Oct 2023 7:27 pm
There have been no particulars that have changed as of yet. Only after the child actually starts school could it have an impact (albeit in my opinion only it's not going to make any difference as it is not a major upgrade your salary or position or marital status). Therefore, while it is a positive it's not likely to be a game changer on the application.
Thanks for the response @sundaymorningstaple
I guess will need to wait for Jan 2024 :)

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Post by ile.viet » Mon, 29 Jan 2024 7:15 am

I just want to add my case to the hopeful statistics here

Approved for PR after 8 months (May 2023-Jan 2024)

Vietnamese
In SG for 18 years
2007-2011 Bachelor Degree
2011-2024 Working at various software engineering roles
Single
No community activities
Rejected once in 2017

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Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 29 Jan 2024 8:16 pm

ile.viet wrote:
Mon, 29 Jan 2024 7:15 am
I just want to add my case to the hopeful statistics here

Approved for PR after 8 months (May 2023-Jan 2024)

Vietnamese
In SG for 18 years
2007-2011 Bachelor Degree
2011-2024 Working at various software engineering roles
Single
No community activities
Rejected once in 2017
Duration of stay, local degree and integration at early age for longer period in SG were the key reasons

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Post by acsupskill » Tue, 06 Feb 2024 3:54 am

I would like to update my case here and get some feedback

Race - Indian
Age - 43
Staying in Singapore - 14+ years
Working in Fintech banking IT
Applied PR 10times plus and keep getting rejected
Last one - rejected last month after 13 months of waiting
Salary - 170K plus annually
Spouse working in IT
2 kids studying n local school

Pls advise what could be the reason for rejections

I noticed in last few applications I wrongly mentioned the place of issue of passport as India but actually it is printed as Singapore since I got it through Singapore embassy

This document error may be the cause?
Highly frustrated

Pls help. Thanks


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