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[Ignorant1]

However, for our careers an overseas assignment would help in long term but we don’t want to jeopardise our REP at any cost.

If your intention is mainly to work overseas other than SG, you are adding to few who basically use PR/SC in a wrong way.

Not permanently, 2-3 year of stint will help to shatter glass ceiling here

[Lisafuller]

rejected guys !! on saturday

Very sorry to hear that, don't take it too personally. Are you planning to apply again?

[NobodyPaiseh]

Is there any point to appealing a PR rejection whatsoever? Has anyone obtained a favourable outcome after appealing a rejection?

My rejection came in May of this year after an 11 month wait and I have not appealed, but I’d like to hear other folks’ thoughts.

My profile (since I see other people post this info):
Nationality: Naturalised Canadian, born in China
Age: 33 at the time of application last year
Marital status: Single
Education: BSc, Canadian university
Length of stay: 4 years
Work: Software Engineer (previously worked in Silicon Valley tech companies for 6 years before coming to SG)
Salary: ~150K/year not including bonus or RSU’s
Kids: no kids out of wedlock that I know of (jokes…)

I’m on an EP and not PEP.

Cheers!

[singaporeflyer]

Is there any point to appealing a PR rejection whatsoever? Has anyone obtained a favourable outcome after appealing a rejection?

My rejection came in May of this year after an 11 month wait and I have not appealed, but I’d like to hear other folks’ thoughts.

My profile (since I see other people post this info):
Nationality: Naturalised Canadian, born in China
Age: 33 at the time of application last year
Marital status: Single
Education: BSc, Canadian university
Length of stay: 4 years
Work: Software Engineer (previously worked in Silicon Valley tech companies for 6 years before coming to SG)
Salary: ~150K/year not including bonus or RSU’s
Kids: no kids out of wedlock that I know of (jokes…)

I’m on an EP and not PEP.

Cheers!

Appeals have a very low chance. What significant information did you miss supplying in the main application? Wait for 1.5-2 years and then reapply.

[NobodyPaiseh]

Sure, I’m in no rush, so waiting and not appealing works for me.

Side question, are all the PR queues together? Or separated by pass?

Would it have make a difference if I transitioned to Tech Pass (a lot fewer people possess it) or PEP?

And does the fact that I’m holding a Canadian passport work against me, despite the fact that I have a Chinese birth certificate (Notorised and translated to English for the PR application, of course)?

Such a weird black box situation, everything I can find out just seems to be hearsay.

[singaporeflyer]

Sure, I’m in no rush, so waiting and not appealing works for me.

Side question, are all the PR queues together? Or separated by pass?

Would it have make a difference if I transitioned to Tech Pass (a lot fewer people possess it) or PEP?

And does the fact that I’m holding a Canadian passport work against me, despite the fact that I have a Chinese birth certificate (Notorised and translated to English for the PR application, of course)?

Such a weird black box situation, everything I can find out just seems to be hearsay.

PR Criteria is a black box.

Tech Pass or PEP will make it a little better than a normal EP.

[NYY1]

I doubt PEP helps, although maybe with the new salary threshold it means one is a high earner ($22,500 per month), which may be viewed favourably. Regardless, it looks like the 5-year Tech Pass is the only option available for you.

Best of luck and regards.

[jalanjalan]

Sure, I’m in no rush, so waiting and not appealing works for me.

Side question, are all the PR queues together? Or separated by pass?

Would it have make a difference if I transitioned to Tech Pass (a lot fewer people possess it) or PEP?

And does the fact that I’m holding a Canadian passport work against me, despite the fact that I have a Chinese birth certificate (Notorised and translated to English for the PR application, of course)?

Such a weird black box situation, everything I can find out just seems to be hearsay.

PR is a stepping stone to citizenship. Do you plan to give up Canadian citizenship and settle down here?
The specific criteria is a black box, but the intentions have been clearly stated.
Here's an example (also addresses your question about type of work pass):
https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parlia ... d-in-2021/

[Lisafuller]

Is there any point to appealing a PR rejection whatsoever? Has anyone obtained a favourable outcome after appealing a rejection?

My rejection came in May of this year after an 11 month wait and I have not appealed, but I’d like to hear other folks’ thoughts.

My profile (since I see other people post this info):
Nationality: Naturalised Canadian, born in China
Age: 33 at the time of application last year
Marital status: Single
Education: BSc, Canadian university
Length of stay: 4 years
Work: Software Engineer (previously worked in Silicon Valley tech companies for 6 years before coming to SG)
Salary: ~150K/year not including bonus or RSU’s
Kids: no kids out of wedlock that I know of (jokes…)

I’m on an EP and not PEP.

Cheers!

They have worked out in the past, though are very very rare.

[Lisafuller]

Sure, I’m in no rush, so waiting and not appealing works for me.

Side question, are all the PR queues together? Or separated by pass?

Would it have make a difference if I transitioned to Tech Pass (a lot fewer people possess it) or PEP?

And does the fact that I’m holding a Canadian passport work against me, despite the fact that I have a Chinese birth certificate (Notorised and translated to English for the PR application, of course)?

Such a weird black box situation, everything I can find out just seems to be hearsay.

I can't imagine why they would be processed. Separately, PR is PR.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Is there any point to appealing a PR rejection whatsoever? Has anyone obtained a favourable outcome after appealing a rejection?

My rejection came in May of this year after an 11 month wait and I have not appealed, but I’d like to hear other folks’ thoughts.

My profile (since I see other people post this info):
Nationality: Naturalised Canadian, born in China
Age: 33 at the time of application last year
Marital status: Single
Education: BSc, Canadian university
Length of stay: 4 years
Work: Software Engineer (previously worked in Silicon Valley tech companies for 6 years before coming to SG)
Salary: ~150K/year not including bonus or RSU’s
Kids: no kids out of wedlock that I know of (jokes…)

I’m on an EP and not PEP.

I reckon your chances are very slim to non-existent. You have already show them you are not a good candidate for PR as you emigrated once to Canada and became a naturalized citizen there and now looking to jump ship to Singapore. Don't look like an ideal candidate for a future citizen to me as you have already shown them you have no issue with changing passports. Good Luck, and I actually mean that, but frankly, from the way I see it you have a good sized hill to surmount.

However, having said that, a lot would depend on the information you didn't give us to work with, e.g. while you were born in China, when did you emigrate to Canada? As a young child or as an adult? I am sure this will be taken into consideration by ICA but is is still, as noted, a black box there. Based on the info given here I have to go with my first sentence.

[sundaymorningstaple]

I doubt PEP helps, although maybe with the new salary threshold it means one is a high earner ($22,500 per month), which may be viewed favourably. Regardless, it looks like the 5-year Tech Pass is the only option available for you.

Best of luck and regards.

I am curious as well to see how ICA is going to do this as that kind of starting salary almost puts them directly into the flight-risk territory. This bears watching now. Especially since the PEP was originally the stepping stone to SGC when it was first conceived (It was also a 5 year visa back then).

[NYY1]

I doubt PEP helps, although maybe with the new salary threshold it means one is a high earner ($22,500 per month), which may be viewed favourably. Regardless, it looks like the 5-year Tech Pass is the only option available for you.

Best of luck and regards.

I am curious as well to see how ICA is going to do this as that kind of starting salary almost puts them directly into the flight-risk territory. This bears watching now. Especially since the PEP was originally the stepping stone to SGC when it was first conceived (It was also a 5 year visa back then).

I think there are some jobs that have high pay, but there are numerous global hubs that people shuttle around among. On the other hand, there may be some industries/skillsets where you are trying to build up the presence here, and to do that you need high earning people.

For the latter, you are probably stuck with the fact that you can't retain all of them, but it is still worth rolling the dice on a few of them, all things considered.

Nothing is fool proof but there may be some other information in single vs. family and the sequence of where you have been. PR as a route to SC is still a valid question for some passports. However, there was a Dutch (?) applicant that got through recently. Also, there may be some demographic preferences that have shifted over time.

[Lisafuller]

I doubt PEP helps, although maybe with the new salary threshold it means one is a high earner ($22,500 per month), which may be viewed favourably. Regardless, it looks like the 5-year Tech Pass is the only option available for you.

Best of luck and regards.

I am curious as well to see how ICA is going to do this as that kind of starting salary almost puts them directly into the flight-risk territory. This bears watching now. Especially since the PEP was originally the stepping stone to SGC when it was first conceived (It was also a 5 year visa back then).

Right! Seems counterintuitive...

[Lisafuller]

I doubt PEP helps, although maybe with the new salary threshold it means one is a high earner ($22,500 per month), which may be viewed favourably. Regardless, it looks like the 5-year Tech Pass is the only option available for you.

Best of luck and regards.

I am curious as well to see how ICA is going to do this as that kind of starting salary almost puts them directly into the flight-risk territory. This bears watching now. Especially since the PEP was originally the stepping stone to SGC when it was first conceived (It was also a 5 year visa back then).

I think there are some jobs that have high pay, but there are numerous global hubs that people shuttle around among. On the other hand, there may be some industries/skillsets where you are trying to build up the presence here, and to do that you need high earning people.

For the latter, you are probably stuck with the fact that you can't retain all of them, but it is still worth rolling the dice on a few of them, all things considered.

Nothing is fool proof but there may be some other information in single vs. family and the sequence of where you have been. PR as a route to SC is still a valid question for some passports. However, there was a Dutch (?) applicant that got through recently. Also, there may be some demographic preferences that have shifted over time.

I think at the end of the day, Singapore is a place that welcomes high earners. ICA would much rather approve a flight risk than someone who does not appear to have much of a chance of financial success.