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Chances of getting PR

Post by Sunrising » Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:45 am

Hi All,

I am planning to apply for Permanent residentship , Below are my details .Kindly have a look suggest me is it the right time for application.

1. Working in Singapore since Jan 2007 in investent bank .
2 . Currently in PEP pass
3 . Nationality : Indian
4. Married in April 2009 and my wife is on DP and currently working under LOC from MOM.
5. Household Income : 100 K per annum.
6. Awarded for Singapore red cross for blood donation for more then 15 times.
7. Involved in fund raising activities for Smile and focussed women foundations.
8. Member of Singapore national library as Friends of library.

Waiting for comments and views.

Thanks

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Post by BillyB » Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:59 am

I think the regular blood donation is the clincher!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:21 am

I tend to agree.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 11 Jul 2012 1:14 pm

Have donated blood 15 times in SG as a habit !

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Post by cw1483 » Wed, 11 Jul 2012 3:31 pm

I think the regular blood donation is the clincher!


I love the sarcasm of this group. Wow, if blood donation gets you this far, then what would sperm and egg donation do for you.

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Post by zzm9980 » Wed, 11 Jul 2012 4:28 pm

cw1483 wrote:I think the regular blood donation is the clincher!


I love the sarcasm of this group. Wow, if blood donation gets you this far, then what would sperm and egg donation do for you.
There are plenty of sperm and eggs in Singapore. I think the problem is too many people here don't know what to do with them.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 11 Jul 2012 4:48 pm

Yeah, but by the looks of the long running courtesy campaign, either the sperm or the eggs (or both) are defective, hence, none of Harry's social engineering programs ever produced the desired results. That's why the need for new citizens, to replenish the seriously depleted gene pool here. :P
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Re: Chances of getting PR

Post by revhappy » Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:17 pm

Sunrising wrote:Hi All,

I am planning to apply for Permanent residentship , Below are my details .Kindly have a look suggest me is it the right time for application.

1. Working in Singapore since Jan 2007 in investent bank .
2 . Currently in PEP pass
3 . Nationality : Indian
4. Married in April 2009 and my wife is on DP and currently working under LOC from MOM.
5. Household Income : 100 K per annum.
6. Awarded for Singapore red cross for blood donation for more then 15 times.
7. Involved in fund raising activities for Smile and focussed women foundations.
8. Member of Singapore national library as Friends of library.

Waiting for comments and views.

Thanks
Your PEP must be on the basis of period of stay rather than salary. Surprised that the household income is only 100k with the spouse contributing. Can't believe Investment Bank employees are paid so low. You must be working through some vendor, in which case, on paper you aren't working for an IB.

In the current climate I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 14 Jul 2012 7:43 am

revhappy wrote:
Sunrising wrote:Hi All,

I am planning to apply for Permanent residentship , Below are my details .Kindly have a look suggest me is it the right time for application.

1. Working in Singapore since Jan 2007 in investent bank .
2 . Currently in PEP pass
3 . Nationality : Indian
4. Married in April 2009 and my wife is on DP and currently working under LOC from MOM.
5. Household Income : 100 K per annum.
6. Awarded for Singapore red cross for blood donation for more then 15 times.
7. Involved in fund raising activities for Smile and focussed women foundations.
8. Member of Singapore national library as Friends of library.

Waiting for comments and views.

Thanks
Your PEP must be on the basis of period of stay rather than salary. Surprised that the household income is only 100k with the spouse contributing. Can't believe Investment Bank employees are paid so low. You must be working through some vendor, in which case, on paper you aren't working for an IB.

In the current climate I wouldn't hold my breath.
Since, he is here in Singapore from 2007, he might have a chance.

OP, just wait and be patient. Good Luck !

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Re: Chances of getting PR

Post by JayCee » Mon, 16 Jul 2012 4:45 pm

revhappy wrote:
Sunrising wrote:Hi All,

I am planning to apply for Permanent residentship , Below are my details .Kindly have a look suggest me is it the right time for application.

1. Working in Singapore since Jan 2007 in investent bank .
2 . Currently in PEP pass
3 . Nationality : Indian
4. Married in April 2009 and my wife is on DP and currently working under LOC from MOM.
5. Household Income : 100 K per annum.
6. Awarded for Singapore red cross for blood donation for more then 15 times.
7. Involved in fund raising activities for Smile and focussed women foundations.
8. Member of Singapore national library as Friends of library.

Waiting for comments and views.

Thanks
Your PEP must be on the basis of period of stay rather than salary. Surprised that the household income is only 100k with the spouse contributing. Can't believe Investment Bank employees are paid so low. You must be working through some vendor, in which case, on paper you aren't working for an IB.

In the current climate I wouldn't hold my breath.
At the Analyst level it sounds about right for guys coming from the subcontinent, he could be on 5-6k a month and she on 2-3 (I assume she's not the IB employee). I know of Indian guys who are VP level making just over 100K and others at AVP level on under 100k, they're seriously underpaid but I guess it's more than back home hence they're happy
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Re: Chances of getting PR

Post by vishalgupta2 » Tue, 17 Jul 2012 6:16 am

JayCee wrote:
revhappy wrote:
Sunrising wrote:Hi All,

I am planning to apply for Permanent residentship , Below are my details .Kindly have a look suggest me is it the right time for application.

1. Working in Singapore since Jan 2007 in investent bank .
2 . Currently in PEP pass
3 . Nationality : Indian
4. Married in April 2009 and my wife is on DP and currently working under LOC from MOM.
5. Household Income : 100 K per annum.
6. Awarded for Singapore red cross for blood donation for more then 15 times.
7. Involved in fund raising activities for Smile and focussed women foundations.
8. Member of Singapore national library as Friends of library.

Waiting for comments and views.

Thanks
Your PEP must be on the basis of period of stay rather than salary. Surprised that the household income is only 100k with the spouse contributing. Can't believe Investment Bank employees are paid so low. You must be working through some vendor, in which case, on paper you aren't working for an IB.

In the current climate I wouldn't hold my breath.
At the Analyst level it sounds about right for guys coming from the subcontinent, he could be on 5-6k a month and she on 2-3 (I assume she's not the IB employee). I know of Indian guys who are VP level making just over 100K and others at AVP level on under 100k, they're seriously underpaid but I guess it's more than back home hence they're happy
I am going to be devil's advocate here.

P2 (I read that he has a PEP, but income is in P2 range) +
Indian +
No future candidate for NS

This may make conditions a bit tough. My best guess is that they may get, apply after 2 years note.

This said, I will be happy to be proven wrong and delighted to see them get green.

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Re: Chances of getting PR

Post by zzm9980 » Tue, 17 Jul 2012 9:28 am

JayCee wrote:I know of Indian guys who are VP level making just over 100K and others at AVP level on under 100k, they're seriously underpaid but I guess it's more than back home hence they're happy
VP and AVP titles in banks mean *nothing*. Those are mid and junior level individual contributor titles.

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Post by JayCee » Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:31 am

zzm9980 wrote:
JayCee wrote:I know of Indian guys who are VP level making just over 100K and others at AVP level on under 100k, they're seriously underpaid but I guess it's more than back home hence they're happy
VP and AVP titles in banks mean *nothing*. Those are mid and junior level individual contributor titles.
Having worked in investment banking my entire career I'm fully aware of what the titles mean, however I'm not talking about how important they are I'm talking about salary levels and 100K for a VP and 80-90 for an AVP is underpaid for the market.
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Post by Sunrising » Tue, 17 Jul 2012 3:04 pm

Hi All ,

Thanks for your comments .

Normally in banks for analyst level salary range is 60 -85 K .

I am having 6+ years and wife is having 3+ years exp , Also as we are from subcontinent we are not getting expats packages.

Someone from my team told me that changes are rare if I apply after the second half of the year as the PR quota might be full for the 2012.

I am not sure about these quota's , Can anyone please suggest the best time for PR application.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 17 Jul 2012 3:31 pm

There are not any good or bad times to apply for PR. There are also not any quotas per se. Whoever told you that is feeding you a line of crap.

What IS happening though, as you should already know, is that criteria is being scrutinized much closer, extended family sizes are also looked at and, last but by far, not the least (actually most importantly) they are really looking harder at people from the subcontinent as they have let far to many become PRs in the past dozen years since the millennium increasing the demographic by over 2 percentage points thereby skewing the demographics more than what the majority is comfortable with. Needless to say, they are find the flimsiest excuses to reject PR applications. While previously PEP based on time in the lower EP rankings still was pretty much a shoe-in I'm not so sure if that is still valid as when it first was introduced just over 5 years ago, it was to be designed as a stepping stone to PR, was found to actually being used as a longer term visa and nothing more. Most have not availed themselves of PR for various reasons.

So, with that in mind, go ahead and apply, but don't be surprised if the answer isn't what you want to hear.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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