Chances of a PR

[singaporeexpat9]

Hi, I and my husband were wondering our chances of getting a PR. Here is our profile
1. Race : Indian
2. Both are MBAs, EP holders. Hubby : P1 pass holder, myself : P2
3. Total household income : >150K p.a
4. Living in SG for past 1.5 years (so only one tax statement in SG)

Appreciate your help and opinion.

[singaporeflyer]

Hi, I and my husband were wondering our chances of getting a PR. Here is our profile
1. Race : Indian
2. Both are MBAs, EP holders. Hubby : P1 pass holder, myself : P2
3. Total household income : >150K p.a
4. Living in SG for past 1.5 years (so only one tax statement in SG)

Appreciate your help and opinion.

Wait for 1.5 more years and submit your first application. You would have a decent chance by then.

[ben8118]

Hi singaporeexpat9,

My personal advice, go for it!

[sundaymorningstaple]

Sounds like a good idea. Provided they don't get depressed at rejection. Not everybody can handle rejection easily.

[vishalgupta2]

Sounds like a good idea. Provided they don't get depressed at rejection. Not everybody can handle rejection easily.

@SMS: May be I am wrong, but a whole lot of people from my country think that its OK to apply, worst case there would be a NO. I have this feeling that they fail to realize that they may have assessed the worst case incorrectly.

Interestingly, the relatively low cost (OK, very very low) of applying for Passes/PRs in Singapore may be playing a role here. Here in Singapore, it's not like US where you have to spend 6k for a H1 and more than 10k for a PR.

[the lynx]

Sounds like a good idea. Provided they don't get depressed at rejection. Not everybody can handle rejection easily.

@SMS: May be I am wrong, but a whole lot of people from my country think that its OK to apply, worst case there would be a NO. I have this feeling that they fail to realize that they may have assessed the worst case incorrectly.

Interestingly, the relatively low cost (OK, very very low) of applying for Passes/PRs in Singapore may be playing a role here. Here in Singapore, it's not like US where you have to spend 6k for a H1 and more than 10k for a PR.

A valid point...

I wouldn't wanna migrate to a country where I have to pay a bomb (if I cannot afford it)...

But I guess in other countries, that's how they have the luxury to have applications of their worth. Look what happened here... Of course having said that, there are still many real decent people who deserve their PR/citizenship status, if not all.

[vishalgupta2]

Sounds like a good idea. Provided they don't get depressed at rejection. Not everybody can handle rejection easily.

@SMS: May be I am wrong, but a whole lot of people from my country think that its OK to apply, worst case there would be a NO. I have this feeling that they fail to realize that they may have assessed the worst case incorrectly.

Interestingly, the relatively low cost (OK, very very low) of applying for Passes/PRs in Singapore may be playing a role here. Here in Singapore, it's not like US where you have to spend 6k for a H1 and more than 10k for a PR.

A valid point...

I wouldn't wanna migrate to a country where I have to pay a bomb (if I cannot afford it)...

But I guess in other countries, that's how they have the luxury to have applications of their worth. Look what happened here... Of course having said that, there are still many real decent people who deserve their PR/citizenship status, if not all.

I totally agree with you, I was thinking the fee could be hiked to some degree to reduce some totally messy applications. I firmly believe that application fee for passes/PR in Singapore is way too low and it makes people file for passes/PRs without thinking.

[revhappy]

Sounds like a good idea. Provided they don't get depressed at rejection. Not everybody can handle rejection easily.

@SMS: May be I am wrong, but a whole lot of people from my country think that its OK to apply, worst case there would be a NO. I have this feeling that they fail to realize that they may have assessed the worst case incorrectly.

Interestingly, the relatively low cost (OK, very very low) of applying for Passes/PRs in Singapore may be playing a role here. Here in Singapore, it's not like US where you have to spend 6k for a H1 and more than 10k for a PR.

A valid point...

I wouldn't wanna migrate to a country where I have to pay a bomb (if I cannot afford it)...

But I guess in other countries, that's how they have the luxury to have applications of their worth. Look what happened here... Of course having said that, there are still many real decent people who deserve their PR/citizenship status, if not all.

I totally agree with you, I was thinking the fee could be hiked to some degree to reduce some totally messy applications. I firmly believe that application fee for passes/PR in Singapore is way too low and it makes people file for passes/PRs without thinking.

You never know, tomorrow you open the newspaper the headlines will be PR application fee set to 1000$. Citizens First!

[vishalgupta2]

Sounds like a good idea. Provided they don't get depressed at rejection. Not everybody can handle rejection easily.

@SMS: May be I am wrong, but a whole lot of people from my country think that its OK to apply, worst case there would be a NO. I have this feeling that they fail to realize that they may have assessed the worst case incorrectly.

Interestingly, the relatively low cost (OK, very very low) of applying for Passes/PRs in Singapore may be playing a role here. Here in Singapore, it's not like US where you have to spend 6k for a H1 and more than 10k for a PR.

A valid point...

I wouldn't wanna migrate to a country where I have to pay a bomb (if I cannot afford it)...

But I guess in other countries, that's how they have the luxury to have applications of their worth. Look what happened here... Of course having said that, there are still many real decent people who deserve their PR/citizenship status, if not all.

I totally agree with you, I was thinking the fee could be hiked to some degree to reduce some totally messy applications. I firmly believe that application fee for passes/PR in Singapore is way too low and it makes people file for passes/PRs without thinking.

You never know, tomorrow you open the newspaper the headlines will be PR application fee set to 1000$. Citizens First!

Sounds like a good idea to me.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Based on what I know of Foreign labour, they pay upwards of 6 to 8K to get a job as an 800/mo labourer. So do you really think jacking up the fees would stop 'em? I don't

[revhappy]

There are lots of those who are sitting on the fence who don't really need pr at the moment, especially since they don't want to buy hdb or are not eligible for it, but treat it as a "nice to have just, just in case" kind of people. If there was a fee of the order of 1000s of $s it would make their decision easy

[vishalgupta2]

Based on what I know of Foreign labour, they pay upwards of 6 to 8K to get a job as an 800/mo labourer. So do you really think jacking up the fees would stop 'em? I don't

Well, may not stop many of them, but those guys are not getting PRs anyway, my thought is if there was a fee like say 1k for PR, people won't submit PRs applications thinking, "well, let's apply, application fee is less than the toilet paper cost at home, worst case a NO"

This way, ICA can also have some funds which can be used to make our borders more secure or 1000s of other good causes.

[sundaymorningstaple]

You would have been surprised how many educated people spent 2,500 to SMC just to apply for Landed PR. Without any guarantees whatsoever before that programme was shut down.

[iloverice]

I agree with SMS, many graduates spend their money for the LPR, some applied right before the suspension of the scheme, now nowhere to complaint (most rejected-even appeal still rejected).

[revhappy]

Ok. Let me kind of paraphrase this a bit since both Vishal and SMS are kind of looking at opposite sides of the same coin.

People who apply for PR can be categorised into 3 types

1)Cat 1: People who are desperate to get into Singapore, no matter what. Singapore just doesnt want these people to become PRs at all. These are the people that SMS is talking about. There are all kinds of people who fall in this category. But mostly low skill and low income workers.

2)Cat 2: People who would love to make Singapore their home. Singapore wants exactly these kind of people to become PRs. Again all kinds of people fall in this category but mostly highly paid high skill.

3)Cat 3: People who want to be in Singapore as long as its "working" for them. These people always keep checking how their "balance sheet" is doing vis-a-vis their home country or any other more developed country. They keep doing this status check regularly and the moment the balance tilts out of favor of Singapore, they are outta here first thing. Singapore obviously doesnt want these kind of people either.

Now the sad thing is most PR applicants or atleast 80% of them are Cat 1 or Cat 3. Cat 2 are very very rare.

Now putting a fee for PR application will certainly not affect Cat 1 or Cat 2 people, but it certainly affects Cat 3 since it tilts their "Balance Sheet" out of favour of Singapore