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PR Duration?

Postby ComingSoon » Thu, 05 Jul 2012 12:58 pm

Not planning on the PR route myself, but it's always good to know the avenues available. In another thread, S.E. mentioned he knew of someone that didn't have their PR status renewed by virtue of having limited tax declarations.

I thought the idea behind Permanent Residency was that it is PERMANENT. How often does a PR status need to be renewed? Is it common for someone to have their status revoked?

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Re: PR Duration?

Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 05 Jul 2012 1:18 pm

ComingSoon wrote:Not planning on the PR route myself, but it's always good to know the avenues available. In another thread, S.E. mentioned he knew of someone that didn't have their PR status renewed by virtue of having limited tax declarations.

I thought the idea behind Permanent Residency was that it is PERMANENT. How often does a PR status need to be renewed? Is it common for someone to have their status revoked?


It is permanent in so much as that your visa is not tied to a specific employer or school.

Your PR is never renewed, you cannot lose that. However, along with your PR, is a re-entry permit. This is what you can lose. If it isn't renewed but you never leave Singapore, you're fine. But if you do, you're out. (And no, you can't enter on a SVP and stay legally.)

The conditions under which your REP is not renewed loosely correlate with you no longer contributing to the state, but instead become a burden on it.

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Re: PR Duration?

Postby ComingSoon » Thu, 05 Jul 2012 1:43 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
ComingSoon wrote:However, along with your PR, is a re-entry permit. This is what you can lose.... but instead become a burden on it.


Hi ZZM9980,
Thanks for the reply. I can certainly appreciate that Singapore doesn't want a bunch of under-employed people dragging down the state. The non-renewal policy makes sense in that regard. With that in mind, a couple of questions:

1. How often do Re-Entry Permits get renewed?

2. How does the state deal with someone who has lived most of their life in Singapore as a PR and finds themselves unemployed or retired? At this stage they may have kids in University, an HDB partially paid, and other long term interests in Singapore. Seems kind of rough to toss them out if they are getting into their semi-retirement years.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 05 Jul 2012 1:45 pm

Or, if they do renew it, I've seen them renew it for only 1 year in order to get your affairs in order before losing it permanently. Oh, you can lost your PR as well, but it would have been because of something rather drastic, e.g., criminal conviction or something equally sinister.

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Re: PR Duration?

Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 05 Jul 2012 4:21 pm

ComingSoon wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:However, along with your PR, is a re-entry permit. This is what you can lose.... but instead become a burden on it.


Hi ZZM9980,
Thanks for the reply. I can certainly appreciate that Singapore doesn't want a bunch of under-employed people dragging down the state. The non-renewal policy makes sense in that regard. With that in mind, a couple of questions:

1. How often do Re-Entry Permits get renewed?

Typically for five years but can be less for a variety of reasons.

2. How does the state deal with someone who has lived most of their life in Singapore as a PR and finds themselves unemployed or retired? At this stage they may have kids in University, an HDB partially paid, and other long term interests in Singapore. Seems kind of rough to toss them out if they are getting into their semi-retirement years.

As long as you could prove self sufficiency, and have key elements like health insurance, you'll probably be OK. It's the folks with a spotty employment record, not much in CPF contributions that will come under scrutiny.

As a matter of note... unless you have made a LOT of money, Singapore is a very expensive place to retire... and it looks like it is only going to become more costly as time goes by.


Cheers


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