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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:23 am

That, my friend, would be your best bet. Any other course of action would be foolish on your part as you stand to lose far more than you employer does. I know it sucks, but I would not want you to mess yourself up here.

I'll leave you with this parting advice. You did not disagree with my statement about you being a Dr. so, if you are who I think your are, you do enjoy Singapore as I think I've found your FB page as well as your resort blog. If I can do that in a couple of minutes, think of what the MOM can do with their resources.......

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:24 am

http://www.mom.gov.sg/employment-practi ... ation.aspx

Any terms and conditions of employment, in a contract of service, that is less favourable than the relevant provision under the Employment Act is illegal, null and void. The provision in the Act will take precedence over a particular contractual term that is less favourable.

i can always tell them that i can get out from their company anytime (of course, when i'm ready) because in the contract that i signed with them either I resign or they'll terminate, i will stay pay for the monetary compensation of 5 digits. What i'm trying to say that they can't impose me to pay the monetary compensation if i resign because the contract is null and void due to the number of work hours.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:29 am

That may well but do you think you spouse will want you to take up free room and board for trying to defraud the MOM?

You seem to forget one big thing. You stand to lose a lot more than the termination fee. You see, MOM knows that employers who are shifty and are shafting the employee in kickback schemes generally overwork the employees as well because they know the employee, if they do go to MOM will end up the bigger losers as they will be banned from Singapore. The employer on the other hand can still hire locals and carry on business as usual. Open your eyes. Where there is smoke there is usually fire.

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:31 am

You seem to have selective reading. Nothing new. We see that a lot in all forum posters who are not only incapable of deductive reasoning, but also in arrogance when it comes to advice, which is worse because no amount of well-meaning advice will break through senses.

Bring MOM into the picture, and your current job will be the last Singapore job ever. That should be your biggest worry.

Bring MOM into the picture for problem A, they will find out about problem B that you and your employer want to hide.

You can try to talk to your employers but don't be surprised if they spring a surprise for you.

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:33 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:That may well but do you think you spouse will want you to take up free room and board for trying to defraud the MOM?

You seem to forget one big thing. You stand to lose a lot more than the termination fee. You see, MOM knows that employers who are shifty and are shafting the employee in kickback schemes generally overwork the employees as well because they know the employee, if they do go to MOM will end up the bigger losers as they will be banned from Singapore. The employer on the other hand can still hire locals and carry on business as usual. Open your eyes. Where there is smoke there is usually fire.


yes, i get it. i will not complain to MOM, i will just finish my contract, and LEARN my lesson. thanks a lot for the advice.

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:35 am

sms, sorry but i'm a nurse in the peens..

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Postby morenangpinay » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:42 am

crescia wrote:so maybe i will just find time to talk to my employer about the maximum number of work hours stated in the employment act of MOM..


if you really want to talk to your boss about work hours do not antagonize him...do not bring the legal stuff in because you will make him more defensive..just approach him with a request...just mention something about your health, etc..you need more rest..something creative..look for better timing.

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:50 am

thank you so much. 'cos i was just wondering why the locals work half day on saturdays whereas we the foreigners work 8 hours. so when i tried to read the MOM's site, there i found out.

i really appreciate it.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:03 pm

you have a PM

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Postby morenangpinay » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:10 pm

i wonder..has anyone searched my facebook???? :lol: :oops:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:36 pm

I can't speak for others, but I only resort to sleuthing when there are potential problems / trolls or spammers. Should I? :o Which one are you? potential problem or troll? :wink: :lol:

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Postby morenangpinay » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:49 pm

im the potential star witness lol..if crescia decides lol :P but ive been told im a major problem by my mom :P

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 1:31 pm

I can't believe that! :wink:

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Postby beppi » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 4:44 pm

Why would talking to your employer help in this case?
They know the rules and break them on purpose. They made sure you break rules too (by agreeing to illegal kickbacks), so you cannot complain about the working conditions. This, too, is on purpose.
They are doing this, because they can. (With Singapore employees, they can't, thus the different working conditions.) And they will continue doing this as long as they can find naive, gullible or desperate foreigners who agree to such arrangements.
What makes you think they will change their mind and allow you different work hours if you remind them of the rules? They will just tell you off, sure that you can't do anything else than shut up.
The authorities (and in fact the Singapore public) will also have no sympathy for you complying in illegal (and thus criminal) acts.
I can imagine it sucks, but you have no way out of this!
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Postby JR8 » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 5:09 pm

crescia wrote:http://www.mom.gov.sg/employment-practices/employment-rights-conditions/contract-of-service-termination/Pages/contracts-of-service-and-termination.aspx

Any terms and conditions of employment, in a contract of service, that is less favourable than the relevant provision under the Employment Act is illegal, null and void. The provision in the Act will take precedence over a particular contractual term that is less favourable.

i can always tell them that i can get out from their company anytime (of course, when i'm ready) because in the contract that i signed with them either I resign or they'll terminate, i will stay pay for the monetary compensation of 5 digits. What i'm trying to say that they can't impose me to pay the monetary compensation if i resign because the contract is null and void due to the number of work hours.



You are wrong. It says 'The provision in the Act will take precedence over a particular contractual term that is less favourable.'

Contractual term, not contract.

Understand?


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