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Postby morenangpinay » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:19 am

your best recourse is to stay on and finish the contract. But i would advice you to do what the others do on your work hours.if the locals work 8 hrs with 1 hr break then do the same. If your boss ask you why you are doing that, tell him your co-workers leave on this time and you do the same.

There is no need for you to stay on longer than what is needed. What is your work there?? and what industry? is it retail ??

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:22 am

by the way, on the contract that i signed the salary was SGD2,000. The kickbacks was agreed verbally and I haven't signed any paper for that.

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:27 am

morenangpinay wrote:your best recourse is to stay on and finish the contract. But i would advice you to do what the others do on your work hours.if the locals work 8 hrs with 1 hr break then do the same. If your boss ask you why you are doing that, tell him your co-workers leave on this time and you do the same.

There is no need for you to stay on longer than what is needed. What is your work there?? and what industry? is it retail ??


i have a different schedule with the locals. all the foreigners in our company have a permanent schedule but not the same everyday. i work in a clinic. and the break is not at the same time with the others. we take turns for the break.

i'm planning to talk to my boss but not this early..

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:28 am

Yes you asked to set the salary problem aside, but the problem is that the maximum number of hours stipulated by MOM is tied to your salary. So it is still related.

I think you still do not understand SMS's point on defrauding MOM.

Your contract says $2000, your pass application says $2000, you are aware that it is applied for with $2000. You give consent for them to deduct after you come in. WHY? HOW MUCH DID THEY DEDUCT? That is a very important question.


And this is the part when MOM will jump in. When MOM jumps in, working over-time will become a small problem because you will be more worried of being charged in court together with your employer for lying to MOM to get you into Singapore for lower pay than stipulated.

So you need to answer this question above. And also morenangpinay's questions so that we can advise properly instead of making assumptions based on your vague situation...

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:30 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:So you do not mind spending time under arrest and lockup for colluding with the employer to defraud the MOM? Good luck, you are going to need it in order to stay out of jail and beat deportation and blacklisting here. Had you done due diligence before signing a contract instead of grabbing the first job that could get you an employment pass, this might not have happened. Unless you were conned by an agent in your home country, that is. But still, you will be guilty of collusion if you knowingly agreed to give the employer kickbacks on your salary.


the first job that could get me an employment pass was rejected. so i grabbed this one instead.

a while ago, you said that if i go and complain to MOM i will be blacklisted and all that. now that i said to just set that salary problem aside, i will still be having some problems? Of course, I'm guilty of giving the employer the kickbakcs of my salary.

so what would be your advice.. i need help

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:35 am

i'm a clinic assistant.

the deduction of my salary is 500 and that makes 1,500 per month. they say that will make an increment after a number of months. MAYBE after 3 months, they will evaluate me and give an increase for a 100 if i'm doing good. if not, then maybe after several months after.

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:38 am

crescia wrote:i'm a clinic assistant.

the deduction of my salary is 500 and that makes 1,500 per month. they say that will make an increment after a number of months. MAYBE after 3 months, they will evaluate me and give an increase for a 100 if i'm doing good. if not, then maybe after several months after.


You haven't answered. Why do they have to deduct from 2000 to 1500?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:39 am

Keep your mouth shut, work past your probation period, give your notice and quit. And above all, LEARN A LESSON. There are no shortcuts here. You run foul of the law, you will pay.

If you try to side step the kickback question MOM will probably befriend you and trick you and you will let the cat out of the bag. They know what a lot of employers are doing, and usually, if they are complaints about the treatment by employers, there are usually other problems as well (like kickbacks).

So go ahead and lodge a complaint at your own risk. Let us know how you go. :-|

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:45 am

Squirrel or Nak, jump in here and give your countrygirl some advice.

I believe she's actually a doctor from the 'peens who's getting shafted by her clinic employer. Unfortunately she's getting ready to do something foolish.

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:46 am

but there was no probation period stated in my contract.

what do you mean by 'lodge a complaint'? to whom? MOM or my employer?

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:51 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Squirrel or Nak, jump in here and give your countrygirl some advice.

I believe she's actually a doctor from the 'peens who's getting shafted by her clinic employer. Unfortunately she's getting ready to do something foolish.


i will not do something foolish. i will just fight for my right with regards to the number of work hours. hence, salary problem is no big deal.

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:58 am

crescia wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Squirrel or Nak, jump in here and give your countrygirl some advice.

I believe she's actually a doctor from the 'peens who's getting shafted by her clinic employer. Unfortunately she's getting ready to do something foolish.


i will not do something foolish. i will just fight for my right with regards to the number of work hours. hence, salary problem is no big deal.


Didn't you read our posts above?!?!

The work hours are only protected for you by MOM if you earn less than $2000 a month! But you are actually earning $2000 in their records so you are not covered. Understand?

But you have cooperated with your employer to cheat MOM by only actually paying you less than $2000 a month while your employer lied to MOM saying that you will earn $2000 to get you in.

If you complain about your work hours to MOM, MOM will investigate why and will find out about that 'special arrangement' you have in cheating MOM. And instead of getting what you want, you will be sent packing back to the Philippines...

So if you don't want that to happen, just keep quiet, finish your contract and resign peacefully and learn that as a lesson...

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:10 am

Part IV of the Act, which provides for rest days, hours of work and other conditions of service, applies only to:

Workmen earning not more than $4,500 basic monthly salaries and
Employees earning not more than $2,000 basic monthly salaries


I only earn $2000, and that is 'not more than $2000'...
hence, it would seem I am covered.

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Postby morenangpinay » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:14 am

what we are telling you is that even if you don't disclose your salary arrangement, the MOM will still look into it if you lodge the complaint with them. Like what Sms said if there is a problem with the work hours, they will think there are other problems.. So if you do complain officially, you need to be ready for all possible scenarios and there are some which are not favorable to you. also what will stop your employer from saying that you agreed to the contract with this salary...etc. just so they can include you in the complaint

finish what you signed and then get out. If they told you verbally that you will have salary increment, again if its not in the contract then you are in trouble. Its your word against theirs. This is your lesson, you need to read what you sign.

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Postby crescia » Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:15 am

so maybe i will just find time to talk to my employer about the maximum number of work hours stated in the employment act of MOM..


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