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Citizenship preliminary assessment interview

Postby lolipop99 » Sun, 01 Jul 2012 3:20 pm

Hi everyone, I heard that you are no longer allowed to apply for Singapore citizenship in economic scheme (EP/S pass holder became PR) by walk-in any more like before but have to make an appointment and go through a preliminary assessment interview, if you pass the interview then they will arrange for you to formally submit the application at a later time.

Does anyone here has any experience with this preliminary assessment interview? What questions do they ask and what documents do you need to submit for them to assess your application? Btw, do you think what are my chance for citizenship:

Race and nationality: Chinese from Burma
Education: Master degree from NTU, Bachelor degree from University of Yangon
PR Since 2010 (2 years plus a few months)
Salary: $3200
Occupation: Civil engineer, 3 years work experience
Age: 29
Marital status: single

Appreciate your comments and share your experience, thanks

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 02 Jul 2012 9:39 am

From another thread it was stated you should have renewed your REP at least once before a PR has a good chance at becoming a citizen. I wouldn't even bother with the pre-assessment interview

Your salary seems a bit low for a good chance, and you're single. If you made 3x that and had an all ethnic-Chinese family with a male son or two, then it might be worth the time.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 02 Jul 2012 1:49 pm

lolipop99 wrote:Does anyone here has any experience with this preliminary assessment interview? What questions do they ask and what documents do you need to submit for them to assess your application?


Documents, as you submit for Citizenship.

Bring ALL your document, walk in, wait, and then get called, the lady at the counter will take the form, and ask a few specific documents, like Pay Slip, CPF .. and Spouse Pay slip etc - keep the whole bunch with you and easily accessible.

Then will take the rest of the documents with the form - as required - birth cert, passport, IC, educational certificates and the whole works. And will call you after a while saying "please proceed to country number x" .. and at counter X, the document and certificates are verified, originals returned to you, and then wait.

That's all I saw - for the rejection - only saw two - one guy who had incomplete documents, and was told to come back with the missing documents, and the other, no letter from employer.

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Postby lolipop99 » Mon, 02 Jul 2012 5:46 pm

ok a friend of mine just went to ICA for this interview and was told that he has not stayed long enough to be eligible on his own merit, maybe they are trying to restrict ineligible people to apply and waste the time and money of both officers and themselves

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 02 Jul 2012 6:01 pm

lolipop99 wrote:ok a friend of mine just went to ICA for this interview and was told that he has not stayed long enough to be eligible on his own merit, maybe they are trying to restrict ineligible people to apply and waste the time and money of both officers and themselves


What would be the point of them encouraging ineligible people to apply?

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Postby friendlybossy » Tue, 03 Jul 2012 5:03 pm

they called it assessment interview but mainly to check if you have a complete application and meet all the required criteria as stated in the website, many people turn up at ICA with an incomplete/ineligible application which waste the time of officers and people in the queue

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Re: Citizenship preliminary assessment interview

Postby tulip_602 » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 6:14 pm

Like to share the experience of one of my friends..

- PR for 14 years
- Single household income/mnth abt 6.5K
- Owns an HDB flat
- Postgraduate

After the preliminary assessment , the officer explained the criteria on the basis of which they do assessment maily duration of stay as PR, income and emloyment history here, qualifications, family background etc etc...

The officer said the income is a bit low which made their application ineligible for further processing bec of some new policies..
And suggested to re -apply after 1 yr.
This happened very recently..

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 7:11 pm

Doesn't surprise me at all. What is your friend bringing to Singapore? Your post not clear. Single household income. Household is actually lower than the media Household income currently. Why give someone citizenship who will make the country's data go down instead of up? Is he single? or married and wife not working? Any children? Male children? if none, then he's not earning enough to be of any real economic benefit to Singapore, he's not producing any offspring to boost up the Fertility Rate or beef up National Service number later.

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Postby lolipop99 » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:24 pm

my friends and I (3 of us) went for the preliminary assessment interview and was told that we all are not qualified. For me, it was just about 10 mins, the lady at the front counter took all our documents, she ask for the tax return which I only have 2 years and so she told me go down level 1 and print out CPF contribution history and bring up. Then I was asked to sit down and wait. About 10 mins later a man come out and told me that he is sorry but I am not qualified to apply and even if I submit the application there is no chance that it will be approved, he explained that I do not stay long enough and my salary is too low, he said based on my current salary and with a steady increase, I may be eligible in another 4 or 5 years. This is really sad because I have seen people earning even lower than me got citizenship approved before. My other 2 friends also have no luck, one earn 3.8K and the other earn 3.4K.

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Postby lolipop99 » Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:32 pm

I think they must have some software in the office when they just key in the data and it automatically will show the number of points you get and whether you have met the pass mark. That is what I guess since they took all the documents and go inside the ofiice and then the man come out only after 10 mins, they cannot do a thorough review in such a short time. I remember a few years ago when I applied for PR there is an online tool where we key in the data and they show green red or amber and explain if we are eligible or not, that systems has been taken away for so long I think, they say under maintainance but I guess they just remove it

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Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:13 am

lolipop99 wrote:they cannot do a thorough review in such a short time.


How long do you think it takes to read a piece of paper and check your: A) Race B) salary C) time in Singapore and D) number of males heirs?

We already told you you didn't have a chance and none of us spent more than 30 seconds reading your post.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 2:39 am

zzm9980 wrote:
lolipop99 wrote:they cannot do a thorough review in such a short time.


How long do you think it takes to read a piece of paper and check your: A) Race B) salary C) time in Singapore and D) number of males heirs?

We already told you you didn't have a chance and none of us spent more than 30 seconds reading your post.


I did read OP post for 1 hour !!
OP standard SOP is 6 years on two REP renewal whichever is longer
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Postby lolipop99 » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:00 am

zzm9980 wrote:
lolipop99 wrote:they cannot do a thorough review in such a short time.


How long do you think it takes to read a piece of paper and check your: A) Race B) salary C) time in Singapore and D) number of males heirs?

We already told you you didn't have a chance and none of us spent more than 30 seconds reading your post.


if it is free why not just try and see? I am genuinely considering to settle permanently in Singapore and not hopping to other countries or using Singapore as a stepping stone like some pragmatic Indians or PRCs in this forum. And when my heart is on here, why don't I try my best for a chance even if it is slim? You seem to be sarcastic in your post and that speaks volumes of yourself

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:41 am

Lolipop99, you are not endearing yourself to anybody on this forum. Just because you don't like the answers you are receiving, which are based on the best knowledge that we currently have, you don't come in here dissing other races. Additionally, no body is being sarcastic, we already told you what to expect and why. The fact that ICA upheld our opinion is not a reason to vent against anybody here.

And that, my friend, speaks volumes about your own character. :roll:

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 2:55 pm

lolipop99 wrote:I think they must have some software in the office when they just key in the data and it automatically will show the number of points you get and whether you have met the pass mark. That is what I guess since they took all the documents and go inside the ofiice and then the man come out only after 10 mins, they cannot do a thorough review in such a short time. I remember a few years ago when I applied for PR there is an online tool where we key in the data and they show green red or amber and explain if we are eligible or not, that systems has been taken away for so long I think, they say under maintainance but I guess they just remove it


Question: Did they take "ALL THE DOCUMENTS" or only ask for few ? Like for example, maybe you had testimonials and such from 10 employer .. was all of that taken for review ?? :)

Oh, the online time also had a disclaimer : that it is for a general assessment and doesn't guarantee success or failure.

It used to be fun, when I did random test on that - I inserted 100,000 SGD as monthly salary with diploma qualification and it came out with a green light.

and then 5,000 SGD as salary with PHD and 20 years experience and it gave an amber light ..


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