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job wanted in hospitality industry/ visa for same sex couple

Postby chowboi » Mon, 25 Jun 2012 3:20 pm

Hey guys

I’ve gotten myself into a bit of a situation so would appreciate any advice or assistance which you might be able to offer.

Here’s a quick run down of the facts:
-I’m a lawyer from Australia and have recently accepted a permanent position with a firm in Singapore

-I have been granted an employment pass (P1) for 2 years and will be relocating to Singapore next week

-I’m in a same sex relationship (male) and would like to bring my partner to Singapore
-Although we have entered into a civil union, my new employer has declined to act as the sponsor if I apply for either a dependant pass or long-term visitor’s pass for my partner

-Our only option (as I am aware) is to therefore get my partner to find a job so that he can get his own employment pass/ work permit

-We have thought about bringing him to Singapore on a tourist visa first so that he can attend interviews in person, but have concerns about him not being able to find a job within the 30/60 day time frame

There is also the added complication that because he is from Taiwan, he can not be in Singapore while his work permit is being assessed (that is, if he only qualifies for a S pass)

-For peace of mind, we would therefore like to secure a job and work permit for him before he enters Singapore

-He has literally submitted dozens of applications for jobs which indicate that they will consider foreigners, but have not had any success to date

-As you can appreciate, with me leaving next week, we are getting a little anxious of where our future hangs

I am keen to get him employment in Singapore so that we can stay together. We are not bothered about how much he would get paid as money isn’t going to be an important consideration (although I am aware that it will determine what employment or work pass he can ultimately apply for).

Can anyone point us in the right direction of where we should continue looking for jobs, or put us in contact with people that may be able to help?

He’s a quick rundown of his credentials:
-Age- 27
-Taiwan national, currently residing in Australia
-Speaks English, Mandarin, Japanese and Indonesian
-Graduated with a bachelor of Business Administration (majoring in Hotel and Tourism Management) from Ta Hwa Institute of Technology, Taiwan
-Academics – consistently ranked 1st in his faculty through-out the course of his degree
-Has 8 years of practical experience in the hospitality and tourism industry.
-Most recently worked at Grand Hyatt Taipei as a VIP attendant (2007-2012);
-Has experience working as a house keeping and front office supervisor at the Sea Passion Hotel in Palau;
-Has also worked as a food and beverage supervisor at the same hotel in Palau;
-His practical hotel management skills include:
o Front office;
o Food and beverage;
o Housekeeping;
o Public relations;
o Complaints handling;
o Providing housekeeping and booking system training to employees; and
o Dealing with VIP guests.

He is a hard worker and keen to impress. He has been applying for opportunities within the hospitality space, mainly front office and food and beverage positions that are similar to his previous experience. He would however like to focus more on developing his skills in the marketing/ PR space within the hospitality industry if those opportunities become available.

Although his English does not match that of a native English speaker, he can communicate without any problem and speaks enough to do his job.

Given the large number of hotels in Singapore, I didn’t imagine it was going to be so difficult for him to find a job. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone can help us shed some light on what we should do to enhance his opportunities of finding employment. Maybe the main reason we are not having any success is because he is not physically in the country?

Thanks all

Matt

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 25 Jun 2012 7:35 pm

You mention "civil union", but I don't know what that means in Australia.

Is gay marriage legal in Australia, and if so, are you legally considered married? If so, you can apply for an LTVP for your partner, your employer doesn't have to do it. You'll need a statement from your embassy stating the legality of your relationship in Australia.

If your employer doesn't sponsor, you need to pay a guarantee/bond if his permit is approved. I believe it is in the ballpark of $5000 SGD.

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Postby Global Girl » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 3:50 am

I am in similar situation. I didn't realise that Singapore would consider an LTVP for a same sex partner? Where could i get more information on this? My company is prepared to help me anyway they can, so are they able to sponsor my partner for an LTVP?

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:27 am

I don't think Singapore is fully ready for same-sex couples. I never heard dependent pass for them. But if your partner has CV with flying colors, and some good luck, I don't see any reasons why your partner can't get a job in Singapore. Competition is everywhere. So, keep on trying :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 1:21 pm

Do a search of this board, it's been discussed on a number of occasions in recent months.

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 4:59 pm

v4jr4 wrote:I don't think Singapore is fully ready for same-sex couples.

Which is ironic considering it is probably the gayest country on the planet. :)

I never heard dependent pass for them.

Well you are not as well informed as you might be, because it certainly exists as a possibility.


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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 5:09 pm

JR8 wrote:
v4jr4 wrote:I don't think Singapore is fully ready for same-sex couples.

Which is ironic considering it is probably the gayest country on the planet. :)

Really? :shock:

JR8 wrote:
v4jr4 wrote: I never heard dependent pass for them.

Well you are not as well informed as you might be, because it certainly exists as a possibility.


How so? It's not like they are "blood related". But let's say they are married. Does Singapore accept the marriage certificate?

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 5:15 pm

I haven't the time right now to give a 1.01 explanation on how it works. But you'll find plenty of anecdotal evidence if you use the Search button.

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 5:19 pm

Ah, got one.

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This explains much.

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Postby Mi Amigo » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 5:34 pm

JR8 wrote:
v4jr4 wrote:I don't think Singapore is fully ready for same-sex couples.

Which is ironic considering it is probably the gayest country on the planet. :)

My wife tells me the same thing. I'm fairly oblivious to it TBH - I guess I don't have that gaydar thing that someone mentioned the other day. And as v4jr4 has now discovered, the gahmen seem to have adopted a slightly more enlightened policy in that area, at least as far as expats are concerned.
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Postby JR8 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 5:51 pm

Mi Amigo wrote: the gahmen seem to have adopted a slightly more enlightened policy in that area, at least as far as expats are concerned.


There is some very deep irony in this comment: but I for one am going to leave it right there! :)

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Postby v4jr4 » Thu, 26 Jul 2012 7:40 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:
JR8 wrote:
v4jr4 wrote:I don't think Singapore is fully ready for same-sex couples.

Which is ironic considering it is probably the gayest country on the planet. :)

My wife tells me the same thing. I'm fairly oblivious to it TBH - I guess I don't have that gaydar thing that someone mentioned the other day. And as v4jr4 has now discovered, the gahmen seem to have adopted a slightly more enlightened policy in that area, at least as far as expats are concerned.


Now if I think about it, the Pink Dot SG can be considered as something new. But whether it affects gahmen's decision or not at all, well...


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