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How to retain your PR?

Post by blessedone » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 7:31 pm

Hello, I am planning to move from Singapore. How can I continue to retain my PR, without making contributions to the CPF? do I need to visit to retain the status?

pls advice

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 7:37 pm

Why would you need to be a permanent resident if you won't be living in Singapore AND not contributing to the economy? Kinda defeats the purpose.
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Post by blessedone » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:00 pm

Posting is permanent outside of SG, but would like to be back here after acquiring skills I need. so considering a return and almost certain of it,

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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:02 pm

You want to become a PR but not live in Singapore? Dream on, it's not happening ...

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:06 pm

Doesn't work that way. You have to be employed by a company in Singapore. IF the Singapore Government is lucky they might get rid of another potential PR abuser. :)
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Post by blessedone » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:10 pm

I am not abusing this privelege. I am a PR and have been respectful of everything. I havent gotten a dime worth of privelege and dont have an intent to abuse.

i retain the intent to come back and work here. how is this abuse?

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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:16 pm

You need to be permanently resident to be a Permanent Resident.

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Post by blessedone » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:20 pm

so an issued permanent resident (SPR) card will be void if I move out of singapore for professional reasons?

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Post by Vaucluse » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:24 pm

blessedone wrote:so an issued permanent resident (SPR) card will be void if I move out of singapore for professional reasons?
Not as far as I know. We moved with five years remaining on the 'permanent' resident stamp.

Came back every now and then and it was still - it's been five years now and it is gone. No worries.
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Post by JR8 » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:33 pm

Been out for a hearty noon-time repast and I really haven't the puff to try and explain. But you are on a hiding to losing your PR pretty pronto...

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:42 pm

blessedone wrote:so an issued permanent resident (SPR) card will be void if I move out of singapore for professional reasons?
If you cannot show a Singapore employer AND related Singapore Tax Returns showing that income in at least the last three years of your current REP, the odds are that it will not be renewed. If you are in the country when that happens, you are normally welcome to stay as long as you do not leave the country as you will not have a reentry permit. If you do, then you lose your PR. If you try to renew it while overseas, if you don't work for a Singaporean company on a temporary assignment, the jig's up. Singapore is trying to curb PR abuse and rightly so. Occasionally they will renew it for one year to give you time to get your house sorted before you leave for good or go back on EP status.
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Post by blessedone » Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:22 am

Vaucluse wrote: Came back every now and then and it was still - it's been five years now and it is gone. No worries.
I believe the PR remains valid till the date provided on the REP (Re entry permit). on/before the REP, one should apply for the renewal. so are you saying the REP for you was not renewed?

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Post by blessedone » Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:23 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
blessedone wrote:so an issued permanent resident (SPR) card will be void if I move out of singapore for professional reasons?
If you cannot show a Singapore employer AND related Singapore Tax Returns showing that income in at least the last three years of your current REP, the odds are that it will not be renewed. If you are in the country when that happens, you are normally welcome to stay as long as you do not leave the country as you will not have a reentry permit. If you do, then you lose your PR. If you try to renew it while overseas, if you don't work for a Singaporean company on a temporary assignment, the jig's up. Singapore is trying to curb PR abuse and rightly so. Occasionally they will renew it for one year to give you time to get your house sorted before you leave for good or go back on EP status.
Thank you - that makes sense and exactly what I wanted to know. Like I said earlier the intent is to be back here and I am not looking to 'acquire' PR status for status and/or associated glory

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Post by blessedone » Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:27 am

JR8 wrote:You want to become a PR but not live in Singapore? Dream on, it's not happening ...
Feel a bit odd in saying this but I sense negativity here - yes a lot of Asians look at this as a privelege and may abuse it - I read this elsewhere in related threads here as well, :shock: however, I do live in singapore and do pay my taxes and do contribute . so I am a little offended.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:30 am

You need to be back with enough time left on your REP to work here for the last three years of the REP. Without the Tax returns & letter from the Singapore employer, you're dead meat, PR wise. Good Luck.

What I have related is what is currently happening. It is NOT NECESSARILY what will be the interpretation in another 6 months or 12 months. They have been systematically tightening up the criteria on a virtually quarterly basis since Jan 2010 and worse since the 2011 GE in May 2010. I sure as hell am not going to put myself out on a limb and play chicken with ICA.
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