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P2 downgraded to Q1 even if salary meet the req > 4.5k

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P2 downgraded to Q1 even if salary meet the req > 4.5k

Post by potatoecheese » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 9:37 am

Hi all

I'm new to this forum but just want to share my recent experience. I'm currently on P2 pass category meeting the P2 salary requirement. then got a new job so my new employer applied for my EP - change in employer status. Though my EP application got approved just today but the pass category was downgraded to Q1 even though my salary meet the minimum requirement for P2 level which is > 4.5k (new requirement starting 2012).

so does anybody know the reason why MOM issued Q1 instead of P2 even though my salary meet the requirement??? Or anybody has the same experience?

this is a little bad news for me since I was planning to apply LTVP for my parents and was expecting to get the same P2 category since my salary was increased as well. but now i think i cannot apply anymore for a LTVP anymore as it require to be at least P2 or P1.

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 9:54 am

What is your ethnicity?

Singapore, may also be trying to keep people from bringing in their spouses, parents and other kin into the country. No official word but anti-foreigner backlash, blah, blah, blah...
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Post by potatoecheese » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 9:57 am

Thanks for your reply..

Im Filipino. and in fact my wife is currently on DP under me. my wife DP also got approve together with my EP.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 9:58 am

Just because you are meeting the income level for a certain pass, that is not all that is looked at. In fact, due to the tightening up of criteria, if your income is "Just" above the qualifying criteria and you have a number of years experience, then you might just find yourself downgraded. Additionally, they are probably looking at the baggage you might be wanting to bring into the country. By lowering the level of the EP they prevent that.

When you apply for an EP, you do not specify any level pass you thing you deserve. In fact, the application on says EP and if you aren't qualified for the EP would you like to be considered for a S pass. So, it's up to them to determine what pass you will receive.

As the old saying here goes, if you don't like they way they do it, you know where the departure door is at Changi, right? You still have an EP, right? Lots have been rejected on renewal, let along getting one approved at a new employer. Be thankful.
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Post by nakatago » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:04 am

potatoecheese wrote:Thanks for your reply..

Im Filipino. and in fact my wife is currently on DP under me. my wife DP also got approve together with my EP.
You already have your wife here. They don't want your parents to be here too.

Like what SMS said, baggage.
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Post by potatoecheese » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:42 am

well Im just thankful that they have approved my EP and my wife's DP. though not the way I expected to be but I agree with you (sundaymorningstaple) if this is going further with how Singapore is running things with regards to foreigner then I might find myself standing in front of Changi's Departure Door in the near future bringing.. :-)

the reason why i wanted to apply for LTVP for my parents is because my wife is about to give birth. hoping to settle down here .. but there are always better places to bring-up a family and Singapore is the least country recommendable to raise one.

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Post by nakatago » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:50 am

potatoecheese wrote:hoping to settle down here .. but there are always better places to bring-up a family and Singapore is the least country recommendable to raise one.
:)
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Post by popeyefan » Thu, 14 Jun 2012 1:06 am

potatoecheese wrote: .. but there are always better places to bring-up a family and Singapore is the least country recommendable to raise one.
Ouuuch. That would hurt me if I were a Singaporean. As foreigners, we come here, work, enjoy the benefits, get a more-than-decent lifestyle, save(and perhaps remit back!). But at the same time curse the very own place which is providing all the above.

We hear/see/talk so much about the anti-foreigner rhetoric raised by the locals. Seems like it is not without reason though.

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Post by teletraan1 » Thu, 14 Jun 2012 7:50 am

Doesn't the truth always hurt? Singaporeans can live in denial of this fact all they want. That won't change it.
popeyefan wrote:
Ouuuch. That would hurt me if I were a Singaporean. As foreigners, we come here, work, enjoy the benefits, get a more-than-decent lifestyle, save(and perhaps remit back!). But at the same time curse the very own place which is providing all the above.

We hear/see/talk so much about the anti-foreigner rhetoric raised by the locals. Seems like it is not without reason though.

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Post by acidrain » Thu, 14 Jun 2012 8:40 am

potatoecheese wrote:well Im just thankful that they have approved my EP and my wife's DP. though not the way I expected to be but I agree with you (sundaymorningstaple) if this is going further with how Singapore is running things with regards to foreigner then I might find myself standing in front of Changi's Departure Door in the near future bringing.. :-)

the reason why i wanted to apply for LTVP for my parents is because my wife is about to give birth. hoping to settle down here .. but there are always better places to bring-up a family and Singapore is the least country recommendable to raise one.
My wife also encounter the same thing after she changes job and her previous EP downgraded to S pass despite meeting the requirements. As we can see from the rest of the post by others, some have problem getting their passes approve.

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