PR Rejected after 15 months - Urgent advise needed

[brad hadely]

Hi all, i am a frequent reader of this forum and today i want you guys to give your suggestions on my case.

I am from Pakistan, working in IT company with Salary 4.5, having employment pass p2. Been working in the same company since Feb 2009.

Qualification : MBA , while currently doing my ACCA here in Singapore, just to add my standards are also Singapore Standards.

Marital Status : Single

I applied for my PR in March 2011, and I just got a reply as ;

"We have considered your application carefully. We regret to inform you that your application has not been successful. Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass. "

M gona get married end of this month and was thinking whether to put an appeal letter including my wife's details or wait and reapply again for the next period.

Will appreciate if you guys can suggest something or rather your insight on what could be the main reason for my rejection, taking into consideration the 15 months waiting time !!!

thanks

[sundaymorningstaple]

I am afraid that ICA has given you the final answer already. It would appear that their decision is pretty firm if you've gotten that dreaded letter saying you are welcome to say & work but PR is out of the question. Getting married isn't going to help it one bit as they will automatically see that as a marriage of convenience so you can try to do an end run around them. Isn't gonna fly. They've seen it too many times already. It sucks, man, but unfortunately that's the way it is. Make all you can here and make exit plans to settle elsewhere because it's not going to happen here.

[popeyefan]

15 months
A tantalizing 15 months at that

By the way, SMS, would love to hear your take on this: Is the 'dreaded' letter the flavor of the season or is it going to be there for the long-haul?

[brad hadely]

Thanks bro, appreciate your reply.

[popeyefan]

Hard luck, mate. All the best!

[Mad Scientist]

I do not think this is the main reason for the rejection. it is more of security blanket

[sundaymorningstaple]

15 months
A tantalizing 15 months at that

By the way, SMS, would love to hear your take on this: Is the 'dreaded' letter the flavor of the season or is it going to be there for the long-haul?

No, the letter has been around for quite some time. I've heard people getting it as long as 4 or 5 years ago. However, it seems to be cropping up with increased regularity now in their quest to reduce the demographic percentages of certain ethinic groupings back to the millenium IT push here when they got pretty lax on who they let have PR.

[brad hadely]

your comments are correct but somehow i feel that people who are less qualified are getting approval, especially Chinese. We have to respect the fact that government has to maintain a certain ratio, which in turns leads to the rejection of some deserving ones.

In my case, by bro is here with his family for almost 17 years now and running his own business, he go his PR in late 2007. Seeing them so happy here, i also wanted to settle down but i guess things are truing the other way round.

I think i have made a mistake by studying local standards, rather i should have chosen International Standards.... disappointed.

I have a job offer with some increase in salary, and thinking will try one more time from this company and include my wife in my application. But somehow feeling disappointed and expecting the same result.

[Greenry82]

Hi SMS,

Please share you kind guidance; after your post few questions rise in my mind questions in red below)

I am afraid that ICA has given you the final answer already. It would appear that their decision is pretty firm if you've gotten that dreaded letter saying you are welcome to say & work but PR is out of the question. I have seen many people around and on this forum getting rejections after 14 / 15 / 16months. If ICA is not interested then why they don’t just reject in initial 2-3 months as they are doing for most of the applications. It is understandable they do not want people and reject in 2-3 months and send them that dreaded letter, but after 15 months……????..

Getting married isn't going to help it one bit as they will automatically see that as a marriage of convenience (True, SMS as per your guidance under which circumstances ICA will NOT see marriage of Singaporean and Foreigner as marriage of convenience?)

so you can try to do an end run around them. Isn't gonna fly. They've seen it too many times already. It sucks, man, but unfortunately that's the way it is. Make all you can here and make exit plans to settle elsewhere because it's not going to happen here.

[x9200]

Curious if having later a male descendant would improve his situation anyhow. In other words what is more important, the ethnicity or having an NS candidate. One could think that in some cases it still can be a factor shifting the balance to the more favorable side.

[Greenry82]

Hi SMS/MS,

keenly waiting for your kind response on the question asked in red above.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Hi SMS,

Please share you kind guidance; after your post few questions rise in my mind questions in red below)

I am afraid that ICA has given you the final answer already. It would appear that their decision is pretty firm if you've gotten that dreaded letter saying you are welcome to say & work but PR is out of the question. I have seen many people around and on this forum getting rejections after 14 / 15 / 16months. If ICA is not interested then why they don’t just reject in initial 2-3 months as they are doing for most of the applications. It is understandable they do not want people and reject in 2-3 months and send them that dreaded letter, but after 15 months……????..

In the run up to the GE in May 2011 I had a meeting/interview with one of the Director's of MOM. ICA apparently was experiencing the same scenario as MOM was in as much as they were flooded with applications from every Tom, Dick & Harry on EP's & S passes trying to get PEP's, and all of the above trying to get PR. This caused a massive backlog. Those who are rejected in 1 to 3 months generally didn't even match the application criteria (from ICA's point of view - not the applicant, who of course, thought they were eminently qualified - NOT). The other went into the "Queue" and with all the processing and subsequent internal directives filtered down from the Gahmen, it's taken quite a long time. Some have gotten PR and some were rejected. Some rightly so, some rejected due to "unspoken" reasons. Not much that we can do except continue to work as long as we can and make exit plans as well. There is no such thing as entitlement in Singapore.

Getting married isn't going to help it one bit as they will automatically see that as a marriage of convenience (True, SMS as per your guidance under which circumstances ICA will NOT see marriage of Singaporean and Foreigner as marriage of convenience?)

That one is easy. Get married and wait till you have been married at least 2 years before applying. Or, have a male child in the meantime but still wait at least a year. Preferably still wait two years.

so you can try to do an end run around them. Isn't gonna fly. They've seen it too many times already. It sucks, man, but unfortunately that's the way it is. Make all you can here and make exit plans to settle elsewhere because it's not going to happen here.

[Mad Scientist]

Hi SMS/MS,

keenly waiting for your kind response on the question asked in red above.

Think about it, it is likely casting a net in the open sea, you pull up and glance thru . Those that are good for sale , you keep . Those that is not worth the keep , you throw it back into the sea

The normal time frame is about 3 to 6 months but as I said a year ago. The number of applicants rose dramatically three folds compare to the number of available slots, hence the big wait
Unlike other countries whereby the Immigration department basically guide you by point system or criterias that needs to be adhere to and you will get your PR approve. In Singapore , although the guidelines are there to follow , the political spectrum dictates how , when and who will get in. Since this country is govern by one family and one family alone will govern , there is not much opposition to how they run it.
30K "aryanis" will be inducted into SG to stabilise the falling support, birth rate and NS draft, will it work ? Your guess is as good as mine

[Greenry82]

Hi Mates

Thanks for your kind replies