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Re: Now start the wait

Postby MrBear » Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:16 am

offshoreoildude wrote:
Let it go and look for greener pastures.


I'll let it go but don't really want to look for greener pastures we like it here, that was kind of the reason to go for PR in the first place.

i got 4 years before the big 40 which seems to be the sell by date for people looking to go to Aussie, who knows whats around the next bend.
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Re: Now start the wait

Postby offshoreoildude » Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:24 am

MrBear wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:
Let it go and look for greener pastures.


I'll let it go but don't really want to look for greener pastures we like it here, that was kind of the reason to go for PR in the first place.

i got 4 years before the big 40 which seems to be the sell by date for people looking to go to Aussie, who knows whats around the next bend.


IF you're going to wallow in regret and incriminations... you'll be worse off.

I'm STUCK in Singapore and I can tell you of at least half a dozen places better to do.

The Aussie cut off is actually higher - 45 now I believe and if you have in demand skills even higher.
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Re: Now start the wait

Postby MrBear » Sun, 21 Apr 2013 12:06 pm

offshoreoildude wrote:IF you're going to wallow in regret and incriminations... you'll be worse off.

I'm STUCK in Singapore and I can tell you of at least half a dozen places better to do.

The Aussie cut off is actually higher - 45 now I believe and if you have in demand skills even higher.


No wallow, I just needed a day to deal with it. Will always keep eyes open from now on and see what the world has to offer me.

care to share that list of places your'd rather be, I'll add them to my list.
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Re: Now start the wait

Postby offshoreoildude » Sun, 21 Apr 2013 2:35 pm

MrBear wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:IF you're going to wallow in regret and incriminations... you'll be worse off.

I'm STUCK in Singapore and I can tell you of at least half a dozen places better to do.

The Aussie cut off is actually higher - 45 now I believe and if you have in demand skills even higher.


No wallow, I just needed a day to deal with it. Will always keep eyes open from now on and see what the world has to offer me.

care to share that list of places your'd rather be, I'll add them to my list.


USA - In the Dakotas or on the North Slope or GOM or Midlands TX. Oil and gas guys are making a killing there.

Thailand - I can do my job from there and they do have ways to allow you to stay for a long time.

Switzerland - hard to get in but possible.

NZ or QLD - NZ is beautiful but not much work - QLD is the best Oz state by far and in the middle of a boom.

Israel - personal reasons.

West Papua as a missionary

There are a lot of little holes that you can find.

More:

Iceland - geothermal
Ireland
Sweden/Norway but prefably Finland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_da_Cunha
Seychelles
Mauritius

Labuan (maybe safety issues) but definitely Brunei
Swaziland or Botswana
Latvia/Georgia/Romania or another recently opened EE state.

It depends a bit on what you bring to the table; an experienced OnG with a M.Eng vs just another IT clerk?

The Falkland Islands
Chile (nowhere else in South American except Belize)
Fiji Islands - Maybe - some issues there
Vanuatu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon (French Canadian Possessions)

Sakhalin - not - just kidding.

PRC - no - and not HK.

The gulf - only Abu Dhabi.

Pakistan but NOT India (Goa maybe - maybe Dehradun but no big cities)

Morocco
Spain / Portugal - wait for the RE to bust when the Brits and PIGS go bankrupt tho.
Cyprus - same thing - the Russians will be distress selling RE soon.

Jeez - where can I think I DONT want to live.

Do you want to know how shitty your profession is?

Take a look at this;

http://www.rigzone.com/jobs/countries/

See all those countries? That's where HARDCORE engineers can work. Shitty IT grads are dime a dozen.
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Re: Now start the wait

Postby Brah » Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:23 pm

offshoreoildude wrote:The Aussie cut off is actually higher - 45 now I believe and if you have in demand skills even higher.

Sorry but what is this cut-off?

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Re: Now start the wait

Postby offshoreoildude » Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:40 pm

Brah wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:The Aussie cut off is actually higher - 45 now I believe and if you have in demand skills even higher.

Sorry but what is this cut-off?


The age cut off for eligibility for certain types of visas or immigration. A lot of variation between countries but basically you run into problems +40. Some countries won't even let you work there past an age (China is 60).
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Re: Now start the wait

Postby JR8 » Mon, 22 Apr 2013 5:20 am

offshoreoildude wrote:Israel - personal reasons.


Yah me too. Just Google on 'Hot Israeli chicks beach M16'.

Thems my personal reasons....

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Postby bgd » Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:52 am

Oops, shouldn't have done that at work 8-)

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Postby katbh » Fri, 03 May 2013 12:49 pm

First applications for PR are often rejected. It is the norm rather than the exception. I am surprised no one has told you this before.
For PR they want you to apply as a family and will no longer accept single applications if you are a member of a family.
Remember the NS liability comes in at age 12 - even if you leave Singapore - he will be liable. Are you happy to make this decision for your child?
Try again - really, second time around has a higher success rate!
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Postby MrBear » Fri, 03 May 2013 1:00 pm

katbh wrote:First applications for PR are often rejected. It is the norm rather than the exception. I am surprised no one has told you this before.
For PR they want you to apply as a family and will no longer accept single applications if you are a member of a family.
Remember the NS liability comes in at age 12 - even if you leave Singapore - he will be liable. Are you happy to make this decision for your child?
Try again - really, second time around has a higher success rate!


Thanks for the kind words.

we did apply as a family but Child was not born yet.

Will wait a few years and see how the feeling is, if things carry on the way they are i wont' waste my time, if they seem to be getting a bit better and wanting family we will try again.
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Postby katbh » Fri, 03 May 2013 1:27 pm

You only need to wait 6 months. I was rejected on my first go, and applied again 6 months later and ...Voila!
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Postby MrBear » Fri, 03 May 2013 1:30 pm

katbh wrote:You only need to wait 6 months. I was rejected on my first go, and applied again 6 months later and ...Voila!


On your rejection was you invited to apply again?

I was not :cry:
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Postby Mi Amigo » Fri, 03 May 2013 3:06 pm

katbh wrote:First applications for PR are often rejected. It is the norm rather than the exception. I am surprised no one has told you this before.

katbh, do you have any hard data to support this statement (as opposed to just the evidence of your single case)? I realise that you're probably trying to reassure the OP and encourage them to not give up hope - fair enough, but we do try to give out information that is as accurate as possible on this forum.

Clearly the fact that a person would (by definition) have been in Singapore for longer may have an impact on a second (or third, etc.) application, but I was not aware of any practice of the ICA routinely rejecting first PR applications (just because they are the first time a person has applied). That wasn't the case in my situation, and I would have thought that every application is treated on its merits, and against the ICA's own arcane criteria that we can largely only guess at.

If you do have some data that shows some kind of implicit 'policy' for rejecting first applications, I'm sure that would be of interest to many readers here, myself included.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 03 May 2013 3:22 pm

Maybe he's just tryin' to be somebody....... :devil:

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 03 May 2013 4:11 pm

MrBear wrote:
katbh wrote:You only need to wait 6 months. I was rejected on my first go, and applied again 6 months later and ...Voila!


On your rejection was you invited to apply again?

I was not :cry:


if you apply after 6 months, as some letter do state, you got nothing to loose !!

Or else, wait for 1 year and apply again.

There is no right way !!! Your application will still be received and reviewed. Don't loose hope !


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