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Work Permit for a foreign domestic worker/second jobs

Postby SingLaw » Thu, 24 May 2012 7:06 pm

We're planning on moving to Singapore in October and are considering getting a maid/nanny. My cousin has never been to Asia and is interested in doing it for a year or two. He's big into the music scene and often manages bands or takes part-time jobs helping with equipment unloads for shows.

Would it be possible for him to work for us on a foreign domestic worker work permit and do other miscellaneous odd jobs? I couldn't find any details about whether maids/nannies are allowed to hold second jobs.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 24 May 2012 7:35 pm

No.

In fact, NO employment visa holder is allowed to work any job or in any other location that that which is on his Employment Pass, Doesn't matter if it's a maid, WP holder, S Pass or Q, P2, or P1 holder. However, a PEP holder CAN work multiple jobs as their passes are not contingent on the employer being the sponsor.

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Postby Zeenit » Thu, 24 May 2012 7:41 pm

SMS, if the OP cousin holds a Ozzie passport will he be able to get a WP as a helper?
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 24 May 2012 7:45 pm

Nope.

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Postby Zeenit » Thu, 24 May 2012 7:49 pm

Thats what I thought to start of with. :roll:
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Postby SingLaw » Thu, 24 May 2012 8:16 pm

I see you asked about an Aussie, but are there rules on which countries a domestic helper can be from? He is American fwiw.

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Postby SingLaw » Thu, 24 May 2012 8:25 pm

Also, is it possible to do any sort of arrangement like I described on any work permit/pass?

Sorry for all the questions, but Singapore seems to have very odd rules in general regarding domestic helpers.

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Postby SingLaw » Thu, 24 May 2012 8:28 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:No.

In fact, NO employment visa holder is allowed to work any job or in any other location that that which is on his Employment Pass, Doesn't matter if it's a maid, WP holder, S Pass or Q, P2, or P1 holder. However, a PEP holder CAN work multiple jobs as their passes are not contingent on the employer being the sponsor.


Just to flesh this out a bit...

In Norway, I work as a lawyer as my primary job, but I also referee soccer part-time for fun/a bit of extra cash. Essentially, this is impossible in Singapore?

What's the rationale behind such a restrictive employment situation? I could understand if someone didn't have a job to begin with and would be a drain on social services, but why does Singapore dislike the idea of multiple part-time jobs or a full-time job with a bit of extra work so much?

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Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 24 May 2012 8:53 pm

SingLaw wrote:
What's the rationale behind such a restrictive employment situation?

Every job a foreigner has is one less available for Singaporeans, thats why. In theory, they're importing people to fill roles that need to be filled that cannot easily be filled domestically. Not to provide work for anyone who wants some.

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Postby SingLaw » Thu, 24 May 2012 9:26 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
SingLaw wrote:
What's the rationale behind such a restrictive employment situation?

Every job a foreigner has is one less available for Singaporeans, thats why. In theory, they're importing people to fill roles that need to be filled that cannot easily be filled domestically. Not to provide work for anyone who wants some.


That was the only one I could think of, but that makes a lot more sense if there is actually unemployment. Unless I'm reading the data incorrectly, Singapore has a 2.1% unemployment rate. That rate is so low, it might actually be harming the economy.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 24 May 2012 9:31 pm

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Postby Zeenit » Thu, 24 May 2012 9:35 pm

SingLaw wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
SingLaw wrote:
What's the rationale behind such a restrictive employment situation?

Every job a foreigner has is one less available for Singaporeans, thats why. In theory, they're importing people to fill roles that need to be filled that cannot easily be filled domestically. Not to provide work for anyone who wants some.


That was the only one I could think of, but that makes a lot more sense if there is actually unemployment. Unless I'm reading the data incorrectly, Singapore has a 2.1% unemployment rate. That rate is so low, it might actually be harming the economy.


Can you please explain how its hurting the economy?
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Postby SingLaw » Thu, 24 May 2012 9:44 pm

Zeenit wrote:
SingLaw wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
SingLaw wrote:
What's the rationale behind such a restrictive employment situation?

Every job a foreigner has is one less available for Singaporeans, thats why. In theory, they're importing people to fill roles that need to be filled that cannot easily be filled domestically. Not to provide work for anyone who wants some.


That was the only one I could think of, but that makes a lot more sense if there is actually unemployment. Unless I'm reading the data incorrectly, Singapore has a 2.1% unemployment rate. That rate is so low, it might actually be harming the economy.


Can you please explain how its hurting the economy?


A decent explanation:
http://economics.about.com/od/helpforeconomicsstudents/f/unemployment.htm
Granted, 2.1% isn't 0%, but it's definitely close enough to raise some of the issues he mentions.

On another note, would an American citizen be eligible for a domestic helper permit? Or is my cousin, in short, out of luck?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 24 May 2012 10:00 pm

Please go back and read my first and second responses.

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Postby Zeenit » Thu, 24 May 2012 10:06 pm

SingLaw wrote:
Zeenit wrote:
SingLaw wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
SingLaw wrote:
What's the rationale behind such a restrictive employment situation?

Every job a foreigner has is one less available for Singaporeans, thats why. In theory, they're importing people to fill roles that need to be filled that cannot easily be filled domestically. Not to provide work for anyone who wants some.


That was the only one I could think of, but that makes a lot more sense if there is actually unemployment. Unless I'm reading the data incorrectly, Singapore has a 2.1% unemployment rate. That rate is so low, it might actually be harming the economy.


Can you please explain how its hurting the economy?


A decent explanation:
http://economics.about.com/od/helpforeconomicsstudents/f/unemployment.htm
Granted, 2.1% isn't 0%, but it's definitely close enough to raise some of the issues he mentions.

So if your husband does not take this employment and allow a Local to take it wont that be more helpful to Singapore?
And if you employ a Local Singapore nanny that will help to instead of bring in more people that will take local jobs.
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