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Post by Greenry82 » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 8:11 am

Thank you very much sms for your kind guidance. Appreciate it.

Please advise; on ICA website they mentioned LTVP application has to be submitted online, and on the same page they mention Sponsor has to be present upon submission of LTVP Application over the counter. kindly advise what is the best way to apply.

we were applying for LTVP (online) yesterday, on online form they ask DE number, currently I am on EP, and MOM did take my DE Card two years back when EP was granted. without DE number online form do not allow us to proceed further, what can we do in this case???????

We has less time left, looking forward experts advice on this.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 8:53 am

As long as you are on an EP you cannot get an LTVP. You can only hold a SINGLE visa at any one time unless you are working on a Letter of Consent.

You cannot apply for an LTVP unless you give up your EP. If you give up your EP you cannot work as you are not qualified for the LTVP+ which allows working on a Letter of Consent. Once your EP is cancelled you will be given a special pass letter and that will have the DE number at the top of the letter. Then you can then apply for the LTVP. The special pass will be good for 30 days.

Once you are on an LTVP and you find an employer who will apply for an EP for you then upon the issuance of the EP, your LTVP will be canceled.
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Post by MGN » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 3:49 pm

"Unfortunately, if you/your employer forgot or did not want to be considered for an S pass on the original application (there is a tic box asking if not eligible for an EP, would you like to be considered for an S pass?) If you don't tick that yes, the you are out of luck as you have made a decision and therefore you will NOT be eligible to apply for an S pass if rejected for an EP. You can try but don't hold your breath. "


Can you please tell us why?

Here is the situation I’m in at the moment:

In the end of April 2012 my new company sent in an EP application. He just ticked the box to be considered for EP and not the one for EP and S Pass. He did this because I already hold an EP and we thought it would not be a problem for me to get one the time around either. Unfortunately, the EP got rejected, so the company applied for an S Pass (the second time around). After waiting a week, the S Pass was rejected again. Last week the company sent in an S Pass appeal with a letter from the MD, myself and all the supporting documents needed better explain the situation surrounding my application.

I’m crossing all my fingers and toes for the appeal to go through and finally get the S Pass. But, when I read the answer stated above is got really nervous and curious. Is it really so that if you make this “decision”

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Post by JR8 » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 4:30 pm

I've wondered this too, it seems a very arbitrary way of dealing with things and the post above is good case in point as to why.

I shall follow this topic with interest (and good luck to MGN)!

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Re: S Pass Appeal

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 5:02 pm

[quote="MGN"]"Unfortunately, if you/your employer forgot or did not want to be considered for an S pass on the original application (there is a tic box asking if not eligible for an EP, would you like to be considered for an S pass?) If you don't tick that yes, the you are out of luck as you have made a decision and therefore you will NOT be eligible to apply for an S pass if rejected for an EP. You can try but don't hold your breath. "


Can you please tell us why?

Because MOM said so?!? :?

Here is the situation I’m in at the moment:

In the end of April 2012 my new company sent in an EP application. He just ticked the box to be considered for EP and not the one for EP and S Pass. He did this because I already hold an EP and we thought it would not be a problem for me to get one the time around either. Unfortunately, the EP got rejected, so the company applied for an S Pass (the second time around). After waiting a week, the S Pass was rejected again. Last week the company sent in an S Pass appeal with a letter from the MD, myself and all the supporting documents needed better explain the situation surrounding my application.

I’m crossing all my fingers and toes for the appeal to go through and finally get the S Pass. But, when I read the answer stated above is got really nervous and curious. Is it really so that if you make this “decision”
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: S Pass Appeal

Post by JR8 » Wed, 13 Jun 2012 5:24 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: Actually I think the real reason would be a lot of employers will not tick the box to be considered for both as the S pass incurs heavy levies (currently $160 or $250/month) while the EP holders are not subject to levies at all.[/color]
Ah so, all is now clear! :)

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Post by Tk3062 » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 5:48 pm

HI All


I Have a silly question for all of you...

My EP is been renewed but we were told in the event its rejected we need to find our own way back home as our positions in the company are not been made redundant can HR do this or is the company needed to assist the effected employees with air fares or relocation fees

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Post by x9200 » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 6:35 pm

Why do you actually expect the company should pay the airfare in such case? A person on the EP is not exactly at the bottom of the salary ladder.

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Post by zzm9980 » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 9:06 pm

Tk3062 wrote:HI All


I Have a silly question for all of you...

My EP is been renewed but we were told in the event its rejected we need to find our own way back home as our positions in the company are not been made redundant can HR do this or is the company needed to assist the effected employees with air fares or relocation fees
If you're on an EP, you don't get anything that isn't spelled out in your employment contract. If your employment contract says you get airfare, you get it. I'm guessing it doesn't, in which case you don't.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 17 Aug 2012 9:14 pm

Was repatriation part of, and written into, your Employment Contract? If it was and you were rejected on renewal, then they would still have to honour the terms of the Contract. However, if it wasn't written into the contract, good luck.
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Post by pau_p1 » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 3:00 pm

i'm wondering whether all those that have EPs being downgraded or SPass rejected are from any foreign nationality?... my company is also continually reappealing my EP as well...

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Post by the lynx » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 3:21 pm

pau_p1 wrote:i'm wondering whether all those that have EPs being downgraded or SPass rejected are from any foreign nationality?... my company is also continually reappealing my EP as well...
Duh :roll:

What do you think these passes are for anyway? Locals? Of course they are all from foreign nationality.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 3:38 pm

Oh lordy, it's catching around here! :P
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Post by beppi » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 3:43 pm

pau_p1 wrote:i'm wondering whether all those that have EPs being downgraded or SPass rejected are from any foreign nationality?
Of course they are. Only foreign nationals need EP or S-Pass.

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Post by v4jr4 » Thu, 23 Aug 2012 3:46 pm

the lynx wrote:
pau_p1 wrote:i'm wondering whether all those that have EPs being downgraded or SPass rejected are from any foreign nationality?... my company is also continually reappealing my EP as well...
Duh :roll:

What do you think these passes are for anyway? Locals? Of course they are all from foreign nationality.
Perhaps pau_p1 wanted to ask if the downgrade is only for EP holders with specific nationality (which I don't think so)

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