sundaymorningstaple wrote:54nd1990 wrote:thanks nutnut and sms,
hmm but its weird if this is about my education, i have friend A and friend B who goes to the same university as me, took the same courses, and the same nationalities as me.
Both of them are already working right now, granted pass by MOM, with not a rejection even once.
Then what's the problem? they even graduated later than me, because they failed so many subjects.
It's very had to say. Most of us are shoot from the hip anymore as the changes within MOM are occurring almost weekly if not daily. Your friends may well have been approved before they changed. We just don't know. About the only question we haven't asked is your ethnicity. If you are Indonesian and they (your friends) are Indonesian Chinese that might be the reason. One thing you must remember, getting a work pass here is not a right even if you qualify. A lot more goes into the selection process. Are your friends working for the same company?
Hi SMS, thanks for your reply.
Well to be honest, I'm an Indonesian Chinese, same goes for them too. And its not the case anymore, as I have just received news from my HR yesterday.
It's basically a long story... I will try to keep it short though.
So about a year ago, I have already worked in Singapore for about almost a month. I was interviewed by my previous employer, he told me about the job scope, everything, bla bla bla, and to be honest, I am quite interested. But turns out its not as sweet as what they said. It is a super chaotic work, no wonder why with that kind of salary the company is still having hard time to find a candidate. And by the way, my employment pass was already approved when I applied for that job, that's why i can work there.
So after nearing to one month, I just cannot take it anymore and since my dad is bed-ridden in hospital, I just cannot think straight. So I was thinking it is better to quit rather than continue working here but I cannot give my best effort. I have tried to give my best effort, but it's just the job is not what I really can do or what I imagined it to be. You know, for jobs, you cannot know how well you can adapt unless you try it right? And so, i gathered my courage and told my boss I want to withdraw myself. He totally understood me, He shook my hand and he told me it is such a loss since he thinks I am a good candidate, it is just I have alot in mind with my father suddenly collapsed and needed a surgery. So, he told me that I should write a resignation letter so that it doesn't look like I was the one who was fired by the company, but instead, it is me who withdrawn from the company, so that I do not have any bad record in MOM. he said that CLEARLY. and so, i did it, i created a withdrawal letter, it was signed, and my withdrawal process going smoothly.
After I settled my dad's situation in Indonesia, I came back to Singapore to find more work, since I promised my dad that I can work in Singapore and will repay him whatever he has spent on me for my studies. So i found this job (my current job), I was trained for about a week (with no salary at all, it was just only a lesson) to understand the job scope, and to be honest I really liked the job. THIS is what I am looking for. So the company is happy to have me, and I matched with all their requirements. So they hired me and applied for me an employment pass. it was rejected at first (because of salary issue as mentioned in first post), but then, after 3 weeks appeal, it was rejected again. My company tried to apply s-pass for me, and it was rejected too, with the reason "this candidate is not applicable for a working pass, please find other candidate".
And so, about 2 days ago, my HR finally got an answer from MOM. It was due to the fact that I was "blocked" by MOM, a.k.a blacklisted. I was like, WHAT?????????? What the hell is going on? So my HR asked more about it, MOM said that my previous company wrote some kind of bad remark about me, and they decided to blacklist me. DA...FUQ? So my HR tried to ask what kind of bad remarks, but MOM cannot tell us. I can understand that. MOM advised us to ask the previous HR, but he has the right not to tell us also. So my HR asked me, "tell me honestly, what kind of dispute you have with your former company?" I have already told her for the zillionth times, nothing happened!!! why should I hide something? I want the pass! if there is really something bad I did and it hinders me to get the pass, obviously I will tell! anyone who is not stupid obviously will do that right?
So the HR asked me to provide the previous HR number. Be my guest! you keep asking me what happened, and you know what? I also want to know! I thought the quitting process was as smooth as silk! nothing happened between us, so why did they write such bad remark for me? its not fair!
I dont know whether my HR has called the previous HR or not, but the last time she called she said he (previous HR) is busy, so might try again later. And I'm doing the best I can on my end, too. I do not know who else to approach. Since my previous employer and I are quite close, I asked for his help. I told them the whole story, even the part where they wanted me to write resignation letter. He was also shocked, he said "What, really? I never heard of that! I am the one who employed you, and I did not write any bad remarks about you! Let me ask the HR tomorrow"
It is really unfair.... Hais... I kind of lost hope already, 90% lost hope and 10% still hopeful that my previous boss will tell me good news tomorrow. I genuinely hope they can settle this with MOM. But I know, its a very slim chance.
But again, thanks SMS for the info. If you are in my shoes, what can you do? Can you advise me anything? It's really eating me up inside, being framed like that. I thought the resignation is going as per normal, they even advised me how to keep good record in MOM, why must they write a bad remark about me?
Also, I have another story to compare. One of my friend, he worked in Australia for about a year. before he was fired, he has some kind of dispute with his former boss (he is one arrogant douche, but clever guy so its kind of understandable if sometimes he acts like a douche) and his former boss fired him. He got bad remark from MOM Australia (well i dont know the real name of MOM in Aussie) and he flew to Singapore to find a job, but couldnt get his past approved because MOM can see he is now rejected for working pass across Australia, because of his dispute with the former boss. But this is he has REAL case of dispute with the former boss, and the former boss even fired him on the spot.
But why me? what did I do wrong? my previous company even wanted me to still work there, but they totally understand that I have personal situations which I cannot just ignore. it was a peaceful resignation! no shouting, no nothing. we shook hand, we waved each other goodbye, and my employer told me if there is anything he can do, he will help me to the best of his ability. And now i really need him to give me a good news. I do not want to carry a dirty slate for something I didn't do. If indeed I did, at least I want to know WHAT IS IT, they can't just go on write something bad where I have done nothing to offend them! even the former boss don't even know anything about this!