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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 07 May 2012 1:12 pm

morenangpinay wrote:I wonder when majority of foreigners leave, will the MRT run better ? coz you know, thats what i read all the time


So explain the brand new Circle Line ? haha .. which even recently broke down, which never happened with the MRT - Red line and Green line. .. and even 10 years ago, never had teething problems.

Oh, even the NEL didn't have teetihng problems ...

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Postby nakatago » Mon, 07 May 2012 1:31 pm

whoosh!

ecureilx wrote:
morenangpinay wrote:I wonder when majority of foreigners leave, will the MRT run better ? coz you know, thats what i read all the time


So explain the brand new Circle Line ? haha .. which even recently broke down, which never happened with the MRT - Red line and Green line. .. and even 10 years ago, never had teething problems.

Oh, even the NEL didn't have teetihng problems ...

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 07 May 2012 2:08 pm

nakatago wrote:whoosh!

ecureilx wrote:
morenangpinay wrote:I wonder when majority of foreigners leave, will the MRT run better ? coz you know, thats what i read all the time


So explain the brand new Circle Line ? haha .. which even recently broke down, which never happened with the MRT - Red line and Green line. .. and even 10 years ago, never had teething problems.

Oh, even the NEL didn't have teetihng problems ...


He just like to see his name in print. :lol:

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 07 May 2012 2:20 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
nakatago wrote:whoosh!

ecureilx wrote:
morenangpinay wrote:I wonder when majority of foreigners leave, will the MRT run better ? coz you know, thats what i read all the time


So explain the brand new Circle Line ? haha .. which even recently broke down, which never happened with the MRT - Red line and Green line. .. and even 10 years ago, never had teething problems.

Oh, even the NEL didn't have teetihng problems ...


He just like to see his name in print. :lol:


I am pretty lost here !!!!

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Postby morenangpinay » Mon, 07 May 2012 4:58 pm

wow i need to work on my foreign talent sarcasm skillzz..

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Postby movingtospore » Mon, 07 May 2012 5:05 pm

NorrinRadd wrote:Schizo is one way to put it, I see it as plain shooting themselves in the foot.

Like with the schooling thing I mentioned in this or another thread, where everyone was up in arms about giving locals first crack at admissions, which is not totally hard to understand. But who looses?

From where I'm sitting I see heated responses without considering the ramifications. Win the battle, loose the war. And it's not even a battle or a war, things are not even necessarily opposing. But fight like it is and it becomes a war, and the victory Pyrrhic.

So ok, the foreign kids get the crumbs of choice for schools. Now those kids can only go to lesser schools, thanks the the ridonculous system here that rewards robotic rote learners. The vast majority of foreign parents of those kids, whose companies do not pay for schooling, can not afford International School, so they are left with what choice? The answer is - Hong Kong. Among other answers.

So who looses? Singapore as a country from less people wanting to come here, Singaporean school kids from a more international community and for some their only real-life chance to interact with it, and the companies who set up shop here who won't continue to be able to attract and / or retain foreign workers.

On the latter point, I know of some people for whom that became a deal breaker, and is why they're planning to leave.

The foreigners are forced into a battle they never wanted and the locals win them out of their schools, the foreigners don't really loose anything that they can't get back home, in Hong Kong, or elsewhere.

I guess the only thing the foreigners loose is the chance to have their kids go to school with Singaporeans, which, sorry to say, somehow is not really loosing anything?


movingtospore wrote:The government, oops I mean the major daily paper, has started running a series on how much foreigners add to SP. Interesting, wondering how they're going to manage that at the same time they try to reduce the number of EPs granted etc. It's schizo....


Apologies for being pedantic, but you lose the war when you become loose with your English. :wink:

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Postby NorrinRadd » Mon, 07 May 2012 9:36 pm

Not at all, thanks for pointing it out, fixed.

movingtospore wrote:
NorrinRadd wrote:From where I'm sitting I see heated responses without considering the ramifications. Win the battle, lose the war.


Apologies for being pedantic, but you lose the war when you become loose with your English. :wink:

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too right

Postby lasvegas » Tue, 08 May 2012 2:27 pm

There is resentment against foreigners without a doubt. I have been here 20 years, and now more than ever the newspapers are stoking the fire about foreigners. You only have to look at the daily paper (wont name it) to see all the chit. This seems to have escalated over the last couple of years. I hate it all and am done now. Before i get replies about the airport, i do know where it is. Sorry to be so negative, it is how i feel about this place. It seems that all of a sudden Singapore has casinos, new hotels bigger than before and all this crap has started against foreigners in the newspaper and on Singapore forums.
Sorry if i offend anyone but i feel Singapore is getting too big for its boots now. :?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 08 May 2012 3:49 pm

lasvegas wrote:There is resentment against foreigners without a doubt. I have been here 20 years, and now more than ever the newspapers are stoking the fire about foreigners. You only have to look at the daily paper (wont name it) to see all the chit. This seems to have escalated over the last couple of years. I hate it all and am done now. Before i get replies about the airport, i do know where it is. Sorry to be so negative, it is how i feel about this place. It seems that all of a sudden Singapore has casinos, new hotels bigger than before and all this crap has started against foreigners in the newspaper and on Singapore forums.
Sorry if i offend anyone but i feel Singapore is getting too big for its boots now. :?


Sounds like you took a page out of my book! :-|

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Postby poodlek » Tue, 08 May 2012 3:57 pm

lasvegas wrote:There is resentment against foreigners without a doubt. I have been here 20 years, and now more than ever the newspapers are stoking the fire about foreigners. You only have to look at the daily paper (wont name it) to see all the chit. This seems to have escalated over the last couple of years. I hate it all and am done now. Before i get replies about the airport, i do know where it is. Sorry to be so negative, it is how i feel about this place. It seems that all of a sudden Singapore has casinos, new hotels bigger than before and all this crap has started against foreigners in the newspaper and on Singapore forums.
Sorry if i offend anyone but i feel Singapore is getting too big for its boots now. :?


I'm not quite sure how you see the connection between the hotels and casinos and the anti-foreigner sentiment. Can you explain please?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 08 May 2012 4:02 pm

Probably his last line.

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 08 May 2012 6:31 pm

From the few local articles and forum posts I can force myself to read, a lot of locals associate both the casinos and foreigners with Gahmen attempts to get rich at their expense. So they're not directly related, but seen as two symptoms of the same problem.

I will refrain from sharing my analysis as it may be mis-construed :)

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Re: too right

Postby JR8 » Tue, 08 May 2012 7:02 pm

lasvegas wrote:There is resentment against foreigners without a doubt. I have been here 20 years, and now more than ever the newspapers are stoking the fire about foreigners. You only have to look at the daily paper (wont name it) to see all the chit. This seems to have escalated over the last couple of years. I hate it all and am done now. Before i get replies about the airport, i do know where it is. Sorry to be so negative, it is how i feel about this place. It seems that all of a sudden Singapore has casinos, new hotels bigger than before and all this crap has started against foreigners in the newspaper and on Singapore forums.
Sorry if i offend anyone but i feel Singapore is getting too big for its boots now. :?


I think it might be a convenient tool for the gahmen, to divert public anger towards foreigners, and away from themselves...

Edit to add: Meanwhile I was reading somewhere that the gahmen have a population target of c6.5m. Quite how that reconciles I don't know.


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