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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 28 Apr 2012 4:23 pm

It only means you are eligible for "consideration". It's not the be all and end all of it all. Without that, you cannot be "considered" for an EP. There are other things that have to tick the right boxes as well.

In Singapore there are no criteria 'carved in stone' meaning if you have this you are entitled to that. There is NO ENTITLEMENT in Singapore. The sooner you realize that, the better off you and everybody else who wants to come here would be.

Another thing is the fact that all EP applications are a two part process. Even if YOU qualify, as you HAVE TO BE SPONSORED for all EPs by an employer, that employer must also be able to justify hiring a foreigners. And that is getting harder by the day. This is especially so, considering the level of quality we have see come through this board over the past 5 years. Like the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel in a huge number of cases.

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Postby andrew22 » Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:25 pm

JR8 wrote:
What seems weird is that I understand per capita GDP is going backwards, and has done since say 20 years ago.


On the contrary: http://www.singstat.gov.sg/stats/themes/economy/hist/gdp.html

Anyways no, don't think that the EP renewal story is just rumors. Have seen it happening increasingly over the past few months. Quite a pain for SMEs and even larger firms to go out and find a replacement for an employee on a somewhat arbitrary and random basis, will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Postby JR8 » Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:54 pm

Thanks for that link, I think I must have incorrectly recalled that from the impression left by the Jeyeratnum article from Wired magazine, linked in this topic:
ftopic87248.html&highlight=wired

I still find it hard to see how GDP per capita is rising strongly given the influx of 'the legions' on workers/sweatshop pay. Maybe in SG per Capita means per citizen :wink:

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Postby popeyefan » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:52 am

Ought to feel thankful for my EP approval considering the current scenario :)

My employer just got it done on Friday for a 3-year renewal . Phew!! :roll:
It was pretty quick actually with the online application filled in by my HR official in the morning and the approval had come by evening , the same day.

Got to say that the employer's reputation also counts big time along with the merits and credentials of the employee

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 1:07 am

popeyefan wrote:Ought to feel thankful for my EP approval considering the current scenario :)

My employer just got it done on Friday for a 3-year renewal . Phew!! :roll:
It was pretty quick actually with the online application filled in by my HR official in the morning and the approval had come by evening , the same day.

Got to say that the employer's reputation also counts big time along with the merits and credentials of the employee


You must feel all comfy and secure now, good for you :)

Oh and how refreshing to see a post that doesn't follow on to ask what the chances of getting PR are, and the odds of citizenship and if you should apply now, and bringing in your 'elderly relatives' and your spinster sister.... lol

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Postby popeyefan » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 1:32 am

JR8 wrote:
Oh and how refreshing to see a post that doesn't follow on to ask what the chances of getting PR are, and the odds of citizenship and if you should apply now, and bringing in your 'elderly relatives' and your spinster sister.... lol


Guess you guys (read: regulars) have been pushed to you wits' end with loads of such queries.
You guys have been wonderful though. Cheers!

Have been a passive reader in this forum until now but reckon should be active lot more and hopefully ask less questions :P

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 1:38 am

Knock yourself out and ask away. It's always interesting to see what people come up with in the way of questions...


p.s. And oh ignore my earlier sarcasm, I'm just in a generally grumpy mood today 8-) :wink:

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Postby popeyefan » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 1:46 am

Got nothing for now - Seriously!
If i do, have no where to go except knock the forum's door :cool:

As for now, just the sense of secureness trickling in :)

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Postby Anthony249 » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 5:39 pm

JR8 wrote:Thanks for that link, I think I must have incorrectly recalled that from the impression left by the Jeyeratnum article from Wired magazine, linked in this topic:
ftopic87248.html&highlight=wired

I still find it hard to see how GDP per capita is rising strongly given the influx of 'the legions' on workers/sweatshop pay. Maybe in SG per Capita means per citizen :wink:


SG per Capita really does mean per a citizen. Similar with UAE and Qatar :). On the surface, foreigners are adding free GDP to the economy.

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 5:44 pm

Are you serious? I was only joking lah. But if true it would explain a few things...

p.s. Yes I had wondered about the UAE, I understand that in places like Dubai only about 10% of the population are citizens...

Edit to add: Nope, seems not
Population: 5.184m
of which citizens: 3.257m
GDP: $326,832m
Per capita GDP: $63,050 (i.e. total GDP/population)

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 29 Apr 2012 9:22 pm

From an article today:
'Immigrants tend to vote for the government which grants them their citizenship as shown by the 2011 U.K elections where about 80 percents of British immigrants voted for the Labor Party.'
http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/


Maybe that explains it...


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