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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 9:10 pm

i will be a on tourist visa (EU passport) so i will fly to bkk/bali every ~80 days for a short holiday to renew my visa.

my hope was that we could rent a 2/3 bedroom flat under my girlfriend's name.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 17 May 2012 9:21 pm

You will still be here on a SVP even though it's a 90 day visa. That means you do not have a residency visa so cannot stay in your gf's rental at all. After the 2nd SVP, you will probably be not allowed to return for a period of 6 months as ICA will see the pattern and assume you are doing something illegal as you will not have a residency visa so therefore are not allowed to work here (and that include online trading or gambling for a living. Not only would you be in trouble with ICA, but MOM and IRAS as well. You are an accident looking for a convenient place to happen, my friend. You would do well, the rethink the whole plan into something with at least a wee bit of legitimacy to it.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 17 May 2012 9:24 pm

SHE should be looking a renting a Master Bedroom (in suite bathroom) only. A two or three bedroom will be a waste of money for a single girl.
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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 9:33 pm

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 17 May 2012 9:40 pm

You are also working illegally if you are a securities trader. Singapore is a nasty piece of work if you cross them.

You have been warned.
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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 9:41 pm

so no visitor in Singapore can take care of their portfolios? I highly doubt that.

Thanks for your help though, appreciate it.

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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 9:47 pm

the thing is that i have also been thinking about going to language school over there to learn chinese.

would i get a student visa doing something like that?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 17 May 2012 10:00 pm

Only if it's a recognized institution. MOM.gov.sg

I'm finished here. You are going to do your thing illegally until you get caught. And caught you will be. You don't want advice, you are looking for affirmation of your pending illegal activities. You will not get it here. Sorry. That's not what we do.
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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 10:04 pm

what the hell? i'm asking for advice in a situation where many things are very unclear to me. i got to know this week that my gf was accepted to NUS and started looking into things.

i have been working in an investment bank for many years in europe and i'm looking to take 1-2 years and enjoy life before getting back to work. i would say that my intentions are rather far away from anything criminal, so i really don't appreciate your tone.

on top of that i want to learn chinese so i'm looking to combine these things.

seems like the singapore conditions are very different from thailand, thanks for bringing that to my attention.

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Post by the lynx » Thu, 17 May 2012 10:49 pm

Chill, chill, guys!

SMS is trying to warn you that you may risk doing visa runs and that is illegal in Singapore. Maybe you will be able to whizz by unnoticed but when the pattern shows up, that's where it may get a little icky.

And yes you can actually look into getting student pass yourself if the institution you intend to study Chinese in is listed. Here is one for example: http://www.inlingua.edu.sg/en/enrolment ... =enrolment

Personally I know nuts about trading so I have nothing to advise on that.

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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 10:56 pm

the lynx wrote:Chill, chill, guys!

SMS is trying to warn you that you may risk doing visa runs and that is illegal in Singapore. Maybe you will be able to whizz by unnoticed but when the pattern shows up, that's where it may get a little icky.

And yes you can actually look into getting student pass yourself if the institution you intend to study Chinese in is listed. Here is one for example: http://www.inlingua.edu.sg/en/enrolment ... =enrolment

Personally I know nuts about trading so I have nothing to advise on that.
thanks mate.

i can understand that but the only thing i heard was "if you hold an EU passport, you get a 90 day visa which is easily renewable by staying a few days in bkk or bali".

so i'm just completely clueless. i spent hours trying to find something forbidding that behavior, but could not find anything.

anyway my pattern would not be 88 days in singapore, 2 days in bkk, 88 days in singapore, 2 days in bkk.....i will be flying to spend summer in europe for 3-4 months, at least a month during xmas time etc.

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Post by the lynx » Thu, 17 May 2012 11:05 pm

Fair enough. But there must be balance between the number of days in and the number of days out of Singapore in a cycle.

There is a formula for that discussed somewhere here but you will need to use the search function up there to look for it... And at the moment, I do not know which keyword to use.

Bottomline, it is good enough for you to know that visa runs are illegal and we regulars here will have to do our part as residents to warn others against pulling it off or accidentally running foul with ICA unwittingly.

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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 11:08 pm

thank you, much appreciated.

i'm not looking to find any loopholes or anything, just figuring out a way to stay with my girlfriend when she starts her studies and combine that with my interests.

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Post by napsus » Thu, 17 May 2012 11:59 pm

or i just move to bangkok and visit my gf frequently in singapore, and vice versa. really annoying situation, didn't realise the visa would become such an issue.
that language school is like S$17k per year, quite steep.

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Post by napsus » Fri, 18 May 2012 12:38 am

the lynx wrote:Fair enough. But there must be balance between the number of days in and the number of days out of Singapore in a cycle.

There is a formula for that discussed somewhere here but you will need to use the search function up there to look for it... And at the moment, I do not know which keyword to use.

Bottomline, it is good enough for you to know that visa runs are illegal and we regulars here will have to do our part as residents to warn others against pulling it off or accidentally running foul with ICA unwittingly.
i can't find that formula...would really love to find out how often i could come if i have to live in bkk.

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